[doggiebox] time signatures

Mike Carlyle mcarlyle at charter.net
Sun May 25 20:21:41 EDT 2003

Thanks Carl,

The only real concern I have is time. I've been pulling a song out of 
my head today that ended up with an 8/8 measure that led into a trio of 
6/8 measures. A few weeks ago, I worked on something that ended up 
being 10/8. While I certainly learned something from figuring that out, 
I just felt that it was time that took away from getting things down 
and recorded while they're still fresh. I need to know how to "set up 
the Dog" so to speak. That's why I'd like to know where I'm going 
before I just do that hunt and peck thing.

I know what you mean though about shortcut tools. I was hoping that I 
could learn from one of those instead of trial and error with 
doggiebox. I did learn something today that I had always puzzled over. 
Doggiebox translates your tempo into your new time signature. Duh. It 
used to bug me that I didn't know what was going on there, but it was 
just trying to help me out ("it" being the software, of course).

I did find a metronome that is interesting, but what I wish for may not 

On Sunday, May 25, 2003, at 05:32  PM, Carl Freire wrote:

> At 8:15 AM -0400 5/25/03, Mike Carlyle wrote:
>> This makes it challenging when I sit down with Doggiebox. I usually do
>> a couple of false starts, changing the combination of tempo/time
>> sig/note value.
>> What's the most reliable way for me to figure out what time signature
>> to start programming a beat with?
> <soapbox>
> Well, frankly I don't see the problem with worrying about false starts 
> and
> such.  It's part of the joy of learning, and I'm not at all being 
> facetious
> when I say that.  This is how we learn things, and the next time you 
> work
> in whatever meter it is you're working you'll know.  Better to struggle
> through with it and acquire the knowledge than look for a shortcut 
> tool.
> </soapbox>
> Sermonizing aside, when I was tinkering with ProTools last week or 
> whenever
> it was, I discovered that it does have an "identify beat" function.  
> Record
> whatever it is you're working on, select the entire track, and then 
> run the
> function.  I tried it only once, but this was with the imported 
> Doggiebox
> drum track and hence something that must be easy for any algorithm to
> figure out.  Don't know how well it will work with someone playing an
> instrument (I imagine pretty well if you're playing repetitive 
> patterns or
> at least really accenting the beats), but FWIW.
> Cheers,
> Carl
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