These, alas, aren't free -- but they are pretty cheap: <http://www.betamonkeymusic.com/Sample.html> I haven't bought them, but I have messed with some freebie Beta Monkey drum loops in GarageBand and they seemed pretty good. (I've sketched out some songs using premade drum loops, which is nice'n'easy, but increasingly find myself going back to write my own parts in DB.) Anyway, USD30 for a CD of drum samples from several different kits isn't bad -- you ought to be able to throw together some pretty good dbkits without quite pulling your hair out from the insane variety in something like the nskit7full samples :) Cheers, Carl ps - still crunching slowly towards a testable nskit7full (selection thereof!) dbkit ... gotta sort out the snares and a kick and then I should be at least close enough to try it out! -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea@carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/