I also got a PatrickCarl - it wanted to assign a drum, I didn't need, when I reopened a song after closing. I just assigned a sidestick and it played in place of a snare hit. Deleted one instance and left the others. No biggie. Yeah, I find some weirdnesses in the Select operation. Trouble is, I just curse and work round it and forget the exact circumstances afterwards. Not much help to Ben and the guys, I'm afraid. Sorry. Adrian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Edlund Anderson" <cea@carlaz.com> To: <doggiebox@lists.zygoat.ca> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [Doggiebox] Latest beta (IE7)
Speaking of hiccups in the latest build, I did a lot of DB work over the past weekend -- trying to be as rough with it as possible :) -- and have noticed a few quirks.
Particularly, I find that getting aggressive with the UI causes crashes :) If I've got some things selected and then quickly throw them somewhere they're not supposed to go and/or click a bunch of other things in rapid succession, the UI often packs up with a spinning beach ball of death or sometimes DB just closes. This can happen too if a long-fading sample is still playing back and I try to start messing around with other sections and generally smack the UI around while DB thinks it should be doing something else.
Similarly. I find that getting cocky and adding hits to the pattern editor while it is playing back has unpredictable results. Often this works fine, but other times DB will start to "skip" or lose beats, and if it gets sufficiently fed up with this treatment, DB just crashes again.
I actually found there was plenty I could do to make DB crash :) so I would like to suggest the addition of an "autosave" feature that you could set to do a snapshot of any open dbsong/dbkit every some-configurable-number-of minutes. That would be useful even in a stable, non-beta version, just as it would for lots of word processing
apps.
There seemed to be some weirdnesses in the various select commands. I never quite figured it out, but sometimes Select All at least didn't seem to work for me. Anyone else find the select commands acting weird?
I found myself getting Patrickcarl events even after starting a new dbsong from scratch and then copying/pasting sections within it. They still seemed to be mostly occuring on beat 3, for whatever reason! Likewise, I also still found that trying to replace one variant with another still sometimes (but not in a way I could predict) causes the second icon to overlay the first (the first then being revealed if you try to erase the hit).
I often found that I wanted to delete a given bar from a section, but couldn't do this (AFAICT) by selecting the bar and hiting delete or backspace or whatever. I could only do it by Cmd-Xing to cut the bar in to the clipboard and then forgetting about it. Should the delete key work here like this?
I often found I wanted to have two sections open for easy viewing, like if I had made one section and wanted to see it for reference when making a variant. You could kind of do this by placing the two sections adjacent in the play list, selecting them (so that both display in the editing window) and then editing the new variant there. But perhaps there's a better way to do that, though I'm not sure what it might be .... some way of popping an individual section open in it's own window or something? Though you wouldn't want the whole gubbins of the editing UI in a window that you wanted use just as a visual reference ....
Oh, well, some thought there, anyway. I got lots of stuff done in DB over the last week, though. A couple of drum tracks ready to form the bases of new demos and the beginnings of several other songs being roughed out :)
Cheers, Carl
ps -- and though I said I could play the tambourine live myself, I don't actually _have_ a tambourine :} and decided one of the tracks I was working on wanted one, so I stuck the Garageband tambourines into my ns_kit7 dbkit along side the GB cowbell :)
-- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Zygoat Doggiebox discussion list - <http://www.doggiebox.com> To unsubscribe, view archives or change your options: <http://lists.zygoat.ca/mailman/listinfo/doggiebox>