I've had a couple of "drums only" Doggiebox song tracks sitting on my web site for a while, waiting for me to add guitars and stuff. Well having not quite managed to get my marginally more complex piece ready before my lady wife returned from a research trip abroad and wanted to reclaim usage of the office/studio/bedroom/computer again ;) I hastily slapped guitars and bass on the mindnumbingly simple piece I was working on instead, just so I could claim to myself to have done something ... anything :) So an MP3 of this track, "Afterburner", with drums by Doggiebox is on my web site: <http://www.carlaz.com/music/current.html>. The .dbsong is there too. The track as it stands is just a sludgey riff-fest (plug-in and go), completely unmixed or anything (I made the MP3 by sending the stereo monitor mix back to my old G3, which has a line-in, and recording it in Peak :) I did record a version with hastily written, hastily recorded vocals, but it was so awful decided to revisit vocals at some point in the indeterminate future :) But it's still the furtherest I've gotten with any musical project (other than the dodgy cover band with the dudes from work, which doesn't count :) for a hell of a long time, so I'm determined to be proud of its progress :) Here's a little more about the DB aspects: The track starts with some woodblock tapping that isn't part of the song _per_se_ but is there so that I can (try to) keep time with the guitar before the proper drums come in; I would mix the woodblocks out eventually. The same woodblock tapping returns later in the piece where there's another _sans_drums_ bit. This is my standard operating procedure to line-up the different instruments. I could have probably livened up the drums with some small tempo changes here and there--speeding up towards the end of the instrumental bit, for example--but hey, I was working fast. Ideally, I should go back and liven up the ride cymbal part, which is kinda ching-ching-ching-ching, with at least some different velocity hits--but swapping out the drum track and lineing up a new one with the existing recording is a pain in the ass :) I do like some of the fast snare fills, though. Some of them work quite well, I thought. Though if DB ever got a feature to tweak particular elements of the kit ahead or behind the beat, it would probably have been handy to set the rhythm keeping element of the snare (or ride) a bit behind the beat, to give it a bit more "groove". If we ever get that and MIDI master/slaving as DB features, I'll definitely go back at recut the drums :) Oh, the .dbsong file is "old style". I haven't converted it to the new pattern-pallete approach yet! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/