relevance of time signatures
For those users like myself that DO read/write standard notation, and try to include DB into that context, it'd be a shame to not use time signatures. I'd probably look for a different sequencer. With the current version of DB, you can still doodle all you want, knowing nothing about time signatures and music structures. I don't see how the time signatures get in the way. And to suggest to a serious composer or recording artist to just "stick two 4/4 bars together and change the tempo to mimmick 5/4" is completely ridiculous. (No offense intended at all, Adrian... I just got a good laugh out of that.) Actually another thing Adrian said struck me as a little odd-- a request to add more subdivisions of each beat. THIS is where a tempo change, and an understanding of time sigs, would apply. In standard notation it is EXTREMELY rare to find anything smaller than a 64th note. Even in very fast and complex Indian tabla rhythms, each beat rarely gets subdivided smaller than that. They just change the time signature. And one last thing-- 6/8 is different than 3/4, which is different than 12/16. At least to someone that's reading it from a sheet of music. If I already have something written for which I want to use DB to build a drum track, and which shifts between the feel of 6/8 and the feel of 3/4, I want to see that on the screen in DB-- I don't want to have to guess which section I'm in by looking at where the snare is in that measure. So, I vote for keeping time signatures. Thanks, DC
Dan, Your points: "And to suggest to a serious composer or recording artist to just "stick
two 4/4 bars together and change the tempo to mimmick 5/4" is completely ridiculous. (No offense intended at all, Adrian... I just got a good laugh out of that.) " No offence taken, Dan. I just find it an easier way of getting my head round the arithmetic, that's all! I'd also assumed that the majority of db users are not "serious composers" , but a range of individuals, from serious hobbyists to aspiring professionals, and whose musical education is on a par with my own - patchy. If I've insulted anyone, I apologise, which is why I've copied it to the main list..
"Actually another thing Adrian said struck me as a little odd-- a
request to add more subdivisions of each beat. THIS is where a tempo change, and an understanding of time sigs, would apply. In standard notation it is EXTREMELY rare to find anything smaller than a 64th note. Even in very fast and complex Indian tabla rhythms, each beat rarely gets subdivided smaller than that. They just change the time signature." That was kind of an afterthought - I do find a maximum of 48 a little limiting, for writing e.g. flams or grace notes or buzzes. (Only David's excellent Ludwig kit provides flams and buzzes.)
I think the majority vote is for keeping the time signature, which is what Ben was asking! Best wishes, Adrian
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