SV: [Doggiebox] Er... Is there a way to export mono?
Um...maybe its just me, but I always though that was what the "mono" button in the down right corner was for? Have I been duped? I`m outraged! Tor "Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it."
Christoph <hermiteer@itsallconnected.com> 20.08.04 5:50 >>> Outside of course of moving the balancing of all samples to one side? Anyone? Bueller?
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Indeed, Tor is correct! :) However I should admit/point out that if you export, you will still end up with a two-channel file... but both channels will be the same (you can throw one away). That's something that could be improved. -ben On 20 8 2004 at 4:37 am -0400, Tor Lillegraven wrote:
Um...maybe its just me, but I always though that was what the "mono" button in the down right corner was for? Have I been duped? I`m outraged!
Tor
"Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it."
Christoph <hermiteer@itsallconnected.com> 20.08.04 5:50 >>> Outside of course of moving the balancing of all samples to one side? Anyone? Bueller?
Cheers,
Christoph
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Mono button? Really? <scans screen> Is that the "M" button? I no longer seem to have a "Mono" button...
Indeed, Tor is correct! :)
However I should admit/point out that if you export, you will still end up with a two-channel file... but both channels will be the same (you can throw one away). That's something that could be improved.
-ben
On 20 8 2004 at 4:37 am -0400, Tor Lillegraven wrote:
Um...maybe its just me, but I always though that was what the "mono" button in the down right corner was for? Have I been duped? I`m outraged!
Tor
"Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it."
Christoph <hermiteer@itsallconnected.com> 20.08.04 5:50 >>> Outside of course of moving the balancing of all samples to one side? Anyone? Bueller?
Cheers,
Christoph
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On 20 8 2004 at 12:37 pm -0400, Christoph wrote:
Mono button? Really? <scans screen> Is that the "M" button? I no longer seem to have a "Mono" button...
Yes, in the new builds, it's the "M" button. If you mouse-over it will give a tool tip saying "toggle mono fold-down". If anybody has suggestions for an icon which will clearly convey this, I'm all ears. :) -b -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca
Ben Kennedy wrote:
If anybody has suggestions for an icon which will clearly convey this, I'm all ears. :)
This is silly, but: a little circle with a picture of an ear, diagonal red line across it ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/
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Ben Kennedy wrote:
If anybody has suggestions for an icon which will clearly convey this, I'm all ears. :)
This is silly, but: a little circle with a picture of an ear, diagonal red line across it ;)
This to me says "no ears", "stop hearing" or basically "mute".
On 23 8 2004 at 5:00 am -0400, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote:
This is silly, but: a little circle with a picture of an ear, diagonal red line across it ;)
That would be great for "mute", but I don't think it conveys a distinction between stereo vs. mono. :) -b -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca
Ben Kennedy wrote:
On 23 8 2004 at 5:00 am -0400, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote:
This is silly, but: a little circle with a picture of an ear, diagonal red line across it ;)
That would be great for "mute", but I don't think it conveys a distinction between stereo vs. mono. :)
Argh, why was I thinking mute!? I've lost the original mail. But for mono, we clearly need a picture of _2_ ears, one of which is crossed out :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/
What about something like this? See attached image. Corey
On 23 Aug 2004, at 17:46, Corey Knafelz wrote:
What about something like this? See attached image.
Erm, the list doesn't preserve attachments. How about a URL? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/
On Aug 23, 2004, at 10:47 AM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote:
Erm, the list doesn't preserve attachments. How about a URL?
Whoops... duh? Okay how about this? <http://www.fuzzylogical.com/dgbx/stereoOrMonoIcon.gif> Corey
On 23 8 2004 at 12:46 pm -0400, Corey Knafelz wrote:
What about something like this? See attached image.
Yeah, I like that, thanks. :) The problem with this type of button is how to indicate... should it simply change its image and not maintain a "pushed-in" appearance? Does the displayed image indicate the current setting, or the setting you effect by pushing the button? Right now the loop button (adjacent) isa push-in type; having two different behaviours adjacent would lead to confusion. The corrollary would be to have a looping/non-looping indication for the loop button and make it non-push-in, but is that really an improvement? -b (yippee, UI design philosophy) -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca
On Aug 23, 2004, at 10:59 AM, Ben Kennedy wrote:
The problem with this type of button is how to indicate... should it simply change its image and not maintain a "pushed-in" appearance? Does the displayed image indicate the current setting, or the setting you effect by pushing the button?
I see what you mean. You're right, the "pushed-in" appearance works for loop and play...
Right now the loop button (adjacent) isa push-in type; having two different behaviours adjacent would lead to confusion. The corrollary would be to have a looping/non-looping indication for the loop button and make it non-push-in, but is that really an improvement?
1. The icon could alternate when the button is active. Like play from green triangle to red square. 2. Perhaps this may perceived as cluttering the interface, but could you have two buttons next to each other? One indicates stereo and one mono and maintain "pushed-in" philosophy. My preference would be # 1. Thoughts?
Why not two push buttons, one for LEFT and one for RIGHT? Press if you want it, depress if you don't...
On Aug 23, 2004, at 10:59 AM, Ben Kennedy wrote:
The problem with this type of button is how to indicate... should it simply change its image and not maintain a "pushed-in" appearance? Does the displayed image indicate the current setting, or the setting you effect by pushing the button?
I see what you mean. You're right, the "pushed-in" appearance works for loop and play...
Right now the loop button (adjacent) isa push-in type; having two different behaviours adjacent would lead to confusion. The corrollary would be to have a looping/non-looping indication for the loop button and make it non-push-in, but is that really an improvement?
1. The icon could alternate when the button is active. Like play from green triangle to red square.
2. Perhaps this may perceived as cluttering the interface, but could you have two buttons next to each other? One indicates stereo and one mono and maintain "pushed-in" philosophy.
My preference would be # 1.
Thoughts?
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http://webpages.charter.net/mcarlyle/monostereo.jpg Above is my submission. I know, I know... nobody said it was a contest. In the example linked above, the "mono" position is shown selected. When toggled, the earpiece on the right would become it's full strength black version (rather than dimmed). I understand the confusion becomes the question "does that show what's selected, or does it show what I'm switching to?" Perhaps a tool tip could clear it up. Believe it or not, I'm still finding tool tips useful in DB. On Aug 23, 2004, at 2:12 PM, Corey Knafelz wrote:
On Aug 23, 2004, at 10:59 AM, Ben Kennedy wrote:
The problem with this type of button is how to indicate... should it simply change its image and not maintain a "pushed-in" appearance? Does the displayed image indicate the current setting, or the setting you effect by pushing the button?
I see what you mean. You're right, the "pushed-in" appearance works for loop and play...
Right now the loop button (adjacent) isa push-in type; having two different behaviours adjacent would lead to confusion. The corrollary would be to have a looping/non-looping indication for the loop button and make it non-push-in, but is that really an improvement?
1. The icon could alternate when the button is active. Like play from green triangle to red square.
2. Perhaps this may perceived as cluttering the interface, but could you have two buttons next to each other? One indicates stereo and one mono and maintain "pushed-in" philosophy.
My preference would be # 1.
Thoughts?
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Mike Carlyle wrote:
http://webpages.charter.net/mcarlyle/monostereo.jpg Above is my submission. I know, I know... nobody said it was a contest. In the example linked above, the "mono" position is shown selected. When toggled, the earpiece on the right would become it's full strength black version (rather than dimmed).
Suppose the point was just drive that little bit further home by having a little "M" appear between the headphones when one was greyed out for mono, and a little "S" when both were black for stereo?
I understand the confusion becomes the question "does that show what's selected, or does it show what I'm switching to?" Perhaps a tool tip could clear it up. Believe it or not, I'm still finding tool tips useful in DB.
At the risk of saying "me, too": me too! As a compliment to the icon Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/
Thank you all for your ideas on this issue. I have taken a mélange of all suggestions and you can critique it in the next build. :) (I've for now settled on a pair of earphones in the style Mike provided, with one earpiece greyed out, along with an 'M' in the middle. However, for now the imagery is staying mostly constant but with the "pushed-in" appearance. Also the tooltip describes the current state. This seemed a reasonable compromise to mitigate potential confusion.) -ben On 24 8 2004 at 5:24 am -0400, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote:
Mike Carlyle wrote:
http://webpages.charter.net/mcarlyle/monostereo.jpg Above is my submission. I know, I know... nobody said it was a contest. In the example linked above, the "mono" position is shown selected. When toggled, the earpiece on the right would become it's full strength black version (rather than dimmed).
Suppose the point was just drive that little bit further home by having a little "M" appear between the headphones when one was greyed out for mono, and a little "S" when both were black for stereo?
I understand the confusion becomes the question "does that show what's selected, or does it show what I'm switching to?" Perhaps a tool tip could clear it up. Believe it or not, I'm still finding tool tips useful in DB.
At the risk of saying "me, too": me too! As a compliment to the icon
Cheers, Carl
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