Re: [Doggiebox] MIDI Interaction with Roland SPD-S

On 28-Jan-2005 18:09, Chris Wicklas wrote:
I have read through past posts and haven¹t been able to find an answer to my question. I¹m curious to know if there is a way for me have a Roland SPD-S control the start/stop of patterns in DB. I am just a beginner when it comes to MIDI, so forgive me if this is a simple question. [...] The Roland is currently connected to a 1ghz Titanium Powerbook via a USB to MIDI controller. I can succussfully use the Roland to record drum
Chris, Can the Roland send MIDI Start and Stop messages (along with MIDI clock, which I assume it can)? Recent beta versions of DB can be started by a MIDI Start message, stopped by a MIDI Stop message, and it will set it's tempo in response to MIDI clock messages. Note that these are MIDI Real Time messages and not MIDI time code (MTC). I have both a foot pedal and an external sound module (Solton MS40) that send start, clock, and stop messages, and DB responds to either unit. They're both connected to the Mac thru an M-Audio MIDISport 2x2 MIDI interface. BTW, the foot pedal, a Ploytec 34One, makes it easy to use DB to provide drum accompaniment for live performance - tap the pedal a couple times to set the tempo and then start playing on the next tap, when DB starts. You can even use the pedal to adjust the tempo while playing. Hope this helps. Ken Boldt parts in
GarageBand, so I know the connection works. I haven¹t tried it in DB yet.

Wow! Thanks, Ken. The more I think about it, I believe the standalone pedal is the way to go for what I want to accomplish. In order to have the SPD-S send a start/stop (assuming that it can send a start/stop), I'd have to sacrifice one of the pads. I read through the info on Polytec's website and am planning on going that route. Thanks again. Chris on 2/2/05 8:15 PM, Sooz and Ken Boldt at kboldt@execpc.com wrote:
Chris, Can the Roland send MIDI Start and Stop messages (along with MIDI clock, which I assume it can)? Recent beta versions of DB can be started by a MIDI Start message, stopped by a MIDI Stop message, and it will set it's tempo in response to MIDI clock messages. Note that these are MIDI Real Time messages and not MIDI time code (MTC). I have both a foot pedal and an external sound module (Solton MS40) that send start, clock, and stop messages, and DB responds to either unit. They're both connected to the Mac thru an M-Audio MIDISport 2x2 MIDI interface. BTW, the foot pedal, a Ploytec 34One, makes it easy to use DB to provide drum accompaniment for live performance - tap the pedal a couple times to set the tempo and then start playing on the next tap, when DB starts. You can even use the pedal to adjust the tempo while playing. Hope this helps. Ken Boldt
I have read through past posts and haven¹t been able to find an answer to my question. I¹m curious to know if there is a way for me have a Roland SPD-S control the start/stop of patterns in DB. I am just a beginner when it comes to MIDI, so forgive me if this is a simple question. [...] The Roland is currently connected to a 1ghz Titanium Powerbook via a USB to MIDI controller. I can succussfully use the Roland to record drum
On 28-Jan-2005 18:09, Chris Wicklas wrote: parts in
GarageBand, so I know the connection works. I haven¹t tried it in DB yet.
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On 03-Feb-2005 02:15, Sooz and Ken Boldt wrote:
BTW, the foot pedal, a Ploytec 34One, makes it easy to use DB to provide drum accompaniment for live performance - tap the pedal a couple times to set the tempo and then start playing on the next tap, when DB starts. You can even use the pedal to adjust the tempo while playing.
Wow, you mean you can set/adjust the tempo on the fly in DB just by tapping the pedal? That would be so cool! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/

On 02 2 2005 at 9:15 pm -0500, Sooz and Ken Boldt wrote:
Recent beta versions of DB can be started by a MIDI Start message, stopped by a MIDI Stop message, and it will set it's tempo in response to MIDI clock messages. Note that these are MIDI Real Time messages and not MIDI time code (MTC).
That is correct. To expand and clarify this a bit for others who may have similar gear: Doggiebox responds to both the MIDI Start and Stop (real-time messages) as well as MIDI Machine Control Play and Stop (MMC commands sent in sysex messages). Doggiebox generates MIDI time code (MTC) on playback, but does not heed any such incoming messages -- although as previously noted, does listen to MIDI Clock (real-time) messages for adjusting tempo on a relative basis. -ben -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca
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Ben Kennedy
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Carl Edlund Anderson
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Chris Wicklas
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Sooz and Ken Boldt