Re: [doggiebox] Doggiebox and other instruments

Your stuff sounds good. I want to ask you, what is the advantage of routing through the 424? I have a 424 I'd like to make use of, but I wasn't sure how I'd best take advantage ofit before sending the signal into my G4.... Thanks, -Patrick PowerbookG4/667/512RAM PT 6.0/Mbox/OS X Condenser mic. for vocals/Sansamp box for guitar tele/strat/acoustic
From: "Michael Carlyle" <mcarlyle@charter.net> To: doggiebox@lists.zygoat.ca Subject: Re: [doggiebox] Doggiebox and other instruments Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 08:13:56 -0400
The sample songs on the site were a couple that I had sent along to Ben, just for kicks. He liked them and posted them, after checking with me, of course.
They were recorded using Cubase SX on a G4. The Doggiebox audio files were exported as 32bit float AIFF's, but any AIFF format would work, really. I imported these tracks as a single stereo track into Cubase. The guitar parts on the first demo were done with my 50's Classic Tele through a Tech 21 Trademark 10 piped directly into a Tascam 424, which I used as a sort of interface between the digital and analog worlds. The Tascam was routed stereo in to the G4, where Cubase picks up the tracks and lays 'em down.
The bass was recorded pretty much direct. It's a '62 RI Fender Jazz routed through a compressor and then into the Tascam, etc.
The drum tracks were left fairly dry. I added some overall compression and a bit of stereo reverb to the mix when creating the disk file. I mixed to AIFF, then used iTunes to convert to mp3.
On Wed, 21 May 2003 21:01:35 -0700 Carl Freire <cfreire@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
Hi Michael:
At 11:11 AM +1000 5/22/03, Michael Garrett wrote:
Warning: I've just joined this mailing list and I'm sure this question has been asked before...
I haven't been on it too long myself so I don't know what's gone before, say, a month ago or so.
How are other people recording bass/guitar/vocals when they are using Doggiebox? The example mp3 songs on the web site are great. I'm <snip>
Well, I've done a little bit, making demos of my songs for my band. I convert my drum track to an .aiff file and then either play out into my Fostex four-track or the ProTools Free eight-track I downloaded some time back from the manufacturer. It's been very nice and sounds pretty good. Hope to tinker some more with this over the next few months--I finally figured out how to do some simple fills, which makes a big difference! Plus, it's easier for me to work to an "actual" drum backing rather than play off of a click track.
FWIW.
Carl --
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On Thu, 22 May 2003 10:15:55 -0400 "Patrick O'Donoghue" <pdiddyod@hotmail.com> wrote:
Your stuff sounds good.
Thanks.
I want to ask you, what is the advantage of routing through the 424? I have a 424 I'd like to make use of, but I wasn't sure how I'd best take advantage ofit before sending the signal into my G4....
Well, for me it's like an interface between the digital and analog worlds. The 424 has a slew of 1/4" inputs, plus the 1/4" phone jack that I use for monitoring. With Cubase, I find it best to monitor in the analog domain, meaning I don't bother listening to the recorded material "as it's being recorded". I monitor the already recorded tracks on playback, routed through the 424, and the live material through the 424 directly. Monitoring during tracking using Cubase alone results in latency that is a multiple of your disk cache. This tip is in the manual, and I found it to be a good one.

On 22 5 2003 at 12:35 pm -0400, Michael Carlyle wrote:
Well, for me it's like an interface between the digital and analog worlds. The 424 has a slew of 1/4" inputs, plus the 1/4" phone jack that I use for monitoring. With Cubase, I find it best to monitor in the analog domain, meaning I don't bother listening to the recorded material "as it's being recorded". I monitor the already recorded tracks on playback, routed through the 424, and the live material through the 424 directly.
Nice to hear you're using Tascam 4-track gear, Mike -- I too have been using my 414 (a step or two down from the 424) for analog i/o. :) My digital input to my ibook is a Griffin iMic, but I have to say it's been a bit of a nuisance lately -- have been having weird levels issues with it, and the string of adaptors required to get into the stereo 1/8th jack is a bit of a pain. I also have a Tascam M508 8x4x2 console which I use to record live jams, but even so I only have a stereo recording capability. The next (affordable) toy I want is a 4- or 8-channel input, preferably FW or USB based so that I can lug it around with my ibook, so that I can pull in more stuff at once. The closest budget gear I have seen to this so far is the M-Audio Quattro which connects by USB, though its cost is still about 4X that of a simple pair of iMics... -ben -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca
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