On 20 4 2004 at 8:43 am -0400, mcarlyle@charter.net wrote:
It wouldn't matter. Once the export is done, you've got individual instrument tracks, period. It doesn't matter where they were originally
born.
True, if you want every single instrument on its own track. I guess I was thinking that you may also wish to configure subgroups, e.g. cymbals into a stereo pair, toms as another pair, then snare and kick.
Is there a demand for this? If so, would it be sufficient to assign such groupings within the drum kit config? I presume so.
-ben
Ben Kennedy wrote:
On 20 4 2004 at 8:43 am -0400, mcarlyle@charter.net wrote:
It wouldn't matter. Once the export is done, you've got individual instrument tracks, period. It doesn't matter where they were originally born.
True, if you want every single instrument on its own track. I guess I was thinking that you may also wish to configure subgroups, e.g. cymbals into a stereo pair, toms as another pair, then snare and kick.
Might want to keep the hat separate, too.
Is there a demand for this? If so, would it be sufficient to assign such groupings within the drum kit config? I presume so.
I haven't thought about separating out the elements drum kit much, since get the timing lined up would be heinous for me just now :) But I can certainly see how being able to configure subgroups-for-export in the kit would be useful; I mean, even I have got a track where I keep thinking "I would probably bring up the toms here ...."
I would tend to take the approach of composing subgroups as if setting up drum mics -- though I've seen people rabidly advocate wildly different ways of micing drums, from obsessively micing every piece to single mic dangling over or in front of, and everywhere in between. So yeah, it might be just as well to let people decide how to group bits of the kit for themselves!
Cheers, Carl
The timing thing is a non issue as long as you're exporting the sounds from the same original song. The song exported from DB does not necessarily start with the first drum sound. It starts at measure one, even if measure one is silent.
In the past, as a workaround, I've actually created four or five separate song files from one original and deleted all but what I wanted. In other words, I've started with "song.file", then saved a copy called "song_snare.file", and so on for each drum. The tracks line up perfectly, since blank audio is inserted before the first sound occurs.
I would imagine the individual export would work much the same way.
I'm all for section exports and subgrouping, as long as it's flexible enough to allow the export of individual drums if that's what I happen to need at that particular moment.
Sorry for the late reply, I've been lounging in sunny FLA for the past week!
On Wednesday, April 21, 2004, at 09:00 AM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote:
Ben Kennedy wrote:
On 20 4 2004 at 8:43 am -0400, mcarlyle@charter.net wrote:
It wouldn't matter. Once the export is done, you've got individual instrument tracks, period. It doesn't matter where they were originally born.
True, if you want every single instrument on its own track. I guess I was thinking that you may also wish to configure subgroups, e.g. cymbals into a stereo pair, toms as another pair, then snare and kick.
Might want to keep the hat separate, too.
Is there a demand for this? If so, would it be sufficient to assign such groupings within the drum kit config? I presume so.
I haven't thought about separating out the elements drum kit much, since get the timing lined up would be heinous for me just now :) But I can certainly see how being able to configure subgroups-for-export in the kit would be useful; I mean, even I have got a track where I keep thinking "I would probably bring up the toms here ...."
I would tend to take the approach of composing subgroups as if setting up drum mics -- though I've seen people rabidly advocate wildly different ways of micing drums, from obsessively micing every piece to single mic dangling over or in front of, and everywhere in between. So yeah, it might be just as well to let people decide how to group bits of the kit for themselves!
Cheers, Carl
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Mike Carlyle wrote:
The timing thing is a non issue as long as you're exporting the sounds from the same original song. The song exported from DB does not necessarily start with the first drum sound. It starts at measure one, even if measure one is silent.
Which doesn't help my particular case, since I would still need to record each output file to my deck seperately and line them up "by ear" :P (Much in the way I need to listen to start playing the guitar at the right moment "by ear".)
Though I was thinking about the ability output seperate drums or drum groups, and wondered if a handy "mute" checkbox in the kit window would be helpful from a UI standpoint? There are those little triangle icons for expanding different sounds from the same instrument, but there could be something like a row of check boxes in there next to instruments (or next to something indicating grouped instruments) so that the user could quickly turn drums or drum groups on and off.
Cheers, Carl
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