BTW, complete non-sequitur: What are DBing guitarists using for home recording?
Hi Carl, I almost bought that marshall studio 15 second hand, but unfortunately I was too late. I understand you're an loyal user of the Studio 15 (nice website, Carl, and some nice sound clips) As for the amp, I've got a Fender Princeton (12W) with the same 6V6 tubes (350 $, 2nd hand); Fender Twin (400 $, 2nd hand) Guitars : 'a few' . For ex. fender tele '52 reissue (1.075 Euro, new); Japanese Strat (650 €, new); an old hagström Futurama III (for free) and a 'brandnew' second hand LP standard (1300 €), Accoustic: Seagull (360 €, new) Bass: a very old (mid 60's) Framus Star Bass (10 €, plays & sounds great though, used it on 'settle down'); Fender Precision (250 €, 2nd hand) A few of stompboxes... Microphones : a few, but the AKG 424 B-ULS stands out ( +/- 900 €, new) Recording Hardware : Powerbook G4; Motu 828mkII(1.090 €); TC electronics Triple C (300 € I think, New) Software : Doggiebox (huh!) & AudioDesk (came with the Motu 828mkII) I do the mixing through my normal stereo,but I have to admid I bought a very nice pair of speakers from a friend(Audio Exklusiv, Suisse): the difference with my old speakers (JVC) is amazing! But I guess real studio speakers are still the best. So for now I do a mix on my stereospeakers, then through the radio in the kitchen and through 2 different headphones. And of course : the final testdrive on my car's stereo. Mathieu www.thirdson.tk Begin forwarded message:
From: Mike Carlyle <mcarlyle@charter.net> Date: 28 april 2004 01:57:49 GMT+02:00 To: Carl Edlund Anderson <cea@carlaz.com> Cc: Doggiebox <doggiebox@lists.zygoat.ca> Subject: Re: [Doggiebox] Wish List
On Tuesday, April 27, 2004, at 06:30 AM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote:
BTW, complete non-sequitur: What are DBing guitarists using for home recording?
I'm using a whole bunch of different things but, to answer the question from a guitar amp point of view, I'd wholeheartedly recommend anyone looking to check out a Tech 21 Trademark 10. It's what I used to do the little ditty on the Doggiebox website that became one of the "demo songs". The TM 10 has SansAmp direct box technology built in, it's all analog, no computer chips inside (no tubes either).
It's affordable. They're usually available on ebay for less than 200 bucks. I got mine in mint condition for 180 (ebay). In addition to that, I will always keep my Marshall Studio 15 alive and kickin' so that I can mic it when I want that really authentic, woody, open, guitar sound. This amp can do a better clean than a Fender, while still retaining the Plexi era, rippin' Marshall sound that has become a classic. This is a 15 watt single channel tube amp with a 12" Celestion.
Oh, and I have a Fender Blues Jr. as well. I don't record with it much though.
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Umm... I have a Marshall Studio 15. Carl might, too, but I think the jumble of quotes below misled you. On Saturday, May 8, 2004, at 07:55 PM, Bal wrote:
BTW, complete non-sequitur: What are DBing guitarists using for home recording?
Hi Carl, I almost bought that marshall studio 15 second hand, but unfortunately I was too late. I understand you're an loyal user of the Studio 15 (nice website, Carl, and some nice sound clips)
As for the amp, I've got a Fender Princeton (12W) with the same 6V6 tubes (350 $, 2nd hand); Fender Twin (400 $, 2nd hand) Guitars : 'a few' . For ex. fender tele '52 reissue (1.075 Euro, new); Japanese Strat (650 €, new); an old hagström Futurama III (for free) and a 'brandnew' second hand LP standard (1300 €), Accoustic: Seagull (360 €, new) Bass: a very old (mid 60's) Framus Star Bass (10 €, plays & sounds great though, used it on 'settle down'); Fender Precision (250 €, 2nd hand) A few of stompboxes... Microphones : a few, but the AKG 424 B-ULS stands out ( +/- 900 €, new) Recording Hardware : Powerbook G4; Motu 828mkII(1.090 €); TC electronics Triple C (300 € I think, New) Software : Doggiebox (huh!) & AudioDesk (came with the Motu 828mkII)
I do the mixing through my normal stereo,but I have to admid I bought a very nice pair of speakers from a friend(Audio Exklusiv, Suisse): the difference with my old speakers (JVC) is amazing! But I guess real studio speakers are still the best. So for now I do a mix on my stereospeakers, then through the radio in the kitchen and through 2 different headphones. And of course : the final testdrive on my car's stereo.
Mathieu www.thirdson.tk
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From: Mike Carlyle <mcarlyle@charter.net> Date: 28 april 2004 01:57:49 GMT+02:00 To: Carl Edlund Anderson <cea@carlaz.com> Cc: Doggiebox <doggiebox@lists.zygoat.ca> Subject: Re: [Doggiebox] Wish List
On Tuesday, April 27, 2004, at 06:30 AM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote:
BTW, complete non-sequitur: What are DBing guitarists using for home recording?
I'm using a whole bunch of different things but, to answer the question from a guitar amp point of view, I'd wholeheartedly recommend anyone looking to check out a Tech 21 Trademark 10. It's what I used to do the little ditty on the Doggiebox website that became one of the "demo songs". The TM 10 has SansAmp direct box technology built in, it's all analog, no computer chips inside (no tubes either).
It's affordable. They're usually available on ebay for less than 200 bucks. I got mine in mint condition for 180 (ebay). In addition to that, I will always keep my Marshall Studio 15 alive and kickin' so that I can mic it when I want that really authentic, woody, open, guitar sound. This amp can do a better clean than a Fender, while still retaining the Plexi era, rippin' Marshall sound that has become a classic. This is a 15 watt single channel tube amp with a 12" Celestion.
Oh, and I have a Fender Blues Jr. as well. I don't record with it much though.
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Mike Carlyle wrote:
On Saturday, May 8, 2004, at 07:55 PM, Bal wrote:
Carl wrote:
BTW, complete non-sequitur: What are DBing guitarists using for home recording?
I almost bought that marshall studio 15 second hand, but unfortunately I was too late. I understand you're an loyal user of the Studio 15 (nice website, Carl, and some nice sound clips)
Umm... I have a Marshall Studio 15. Carl might, too, but I think the jumble of quotes below misled you.
Carl (this Carl, anyway) doesn't have a Marshall Studio 15 (though I remember that one of my fave guitarists, Martin Barre, used a Studio 15 on various latter-day Jethro Tull records). I suspect the website attributed to me was probably Mike's, too, since it has a Studio 15 tribute page <http://webpages.charter.net/mcarlyle/marshall/> and is generally nice and has nice sound clips :) I would hardly throw away a Studio 15 if the Mighty Gods of Rock swooped down on a cloud and dropped one off for me, though I'm actually trying to find a solution that doesn't even have a speaker as an option (since speakers take up space and make noise that people who are not the recording artist can hear, both of which are things that wouldn't aid me at the moment :) I think I'll check out the ebay scene on SansAmp stuff again after the next payday, though .... Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/
At 3:00 PM +0100 5/10/04, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote:
Mike Carlyle wrote:
On Saturday, May 8, 2004, at 07:55 PM, Bal wrote:
Carl wrote:
BTW, complete non-sequitur: What are DBing guitarists using for home recording?
I almost bought that marshall studio 15 second hand, but unfortunately I was too late. I understand you're an loyal user of the Studio 15 (nice website, Carl, and some nice sound clips)
Umm... I have a Marshall Studio 15. Carl might, too, but I think the jumble of quotes below misled you.
Carl (this Carl, anyway) doesn't have a Marshall Studio 15 (though I remember that one of my fave <snip>
This reminds this other Carl that he has been lurking for a long time (life has gotten extremely busy!). My gear is as follows: *1965 Fender Deluxe (my baby!--with tremolo, not reverb--bought it back in 1988 for about USD$250; finally got around to re-tubing it last year and it sound sweeter than ever) *1963 Reverb Box Reissue (an ugly brown, but who cares!--I run vocals through it sometimes, too) *Various pedals: Wah (Electro Harmonix), chorus (Boss), distortion (MXR), overdrive (Voodoo Labs SparkleDrive), noise suppressor (Boss). *40th Anniversary Strat (my other baby!--a friend of mine who plays mainly Tele-s sold this to me at a great price last summer) refitted with Fender noiseless pickups *Epiphone LS-100 with DiMarzio PAF pickups *Ibanez Roadstar II--my first nice electric guitar received as a birthday present almost two decades ago (yikes!); the neck is really sweet, but it sits in its case most of the time now that the new baby is in town *some ridiculous Ibanez heavy metal bass (SDGR) that I play through the Deluxe--the neck is perfect for me and with lots of tinkering of tone knobs on bass and amp I can still get a warmish sound; got it in a trade for a Fernandes precision bass that had a neck about a mile wide *Takamine EN-10 acoustic/electric--sweet neck, but I've always been torn about the dreadnought body, which gives me a nice big sound but is, well, big *Doggiebox--I use modified version of the Hemberger stereo kit, which had the soft snare hit to go with the hard one and all those hi-hat variations. I have yet to download the new software that allows velocity adjustments, so the Hemberger kit has been my kit of choice to give me more realistic sounding drum fills and hi-hat work. I wanted more variety with the cymbal sounds, though, so I imported rides and crashes from most of the other pre-2004 kits as well as the egg shakers and cowbells that got added to Ben's kit. *I've gone through various multitrackers. I used the Fostex MR-8 for a little while, but while I liked the built-in reverb effects the digital sound was just too dry for me. I have a used Tascam 414MkI (they added the XLR input with the MkII) and the tape sound is much nicer. That said, I also have the freebie, 8-track version of ProTools on my Mac, too; given that I'm still mainly an OS9 user (the freebie is available only for OS9, at present anyway), it's fun to tinker with from time to time. The big change for me is I finally invested in a Shure SM58 microphone. I had been using cheap Nady SP-9 microphones until now. Given that I record mainly in my apartment's living room, it's been hard to tinker around too much with microphone placement because I can't let the amp get too loud. The SM58 is more responsive, so it will at least let me step farther back from the mike to get more ambient sound. A friend of mine long ago showed me a simple trick for getting even more ambience--just set up two microphones, one at the sound source (voice/instrument) and one someplace else in the room; record to two tracks; then bounce the two tracks down. I'll have to do this the next time I record. Cheers, Carl -- ********** Carl Freire Oakland, California cfreire@ix.netcom.com cfreire@uclink4.berkeley.edu
Allright, allright! I ment Mike CARLyle - there's 'Carl' in it, ain't it. So I made a mistake. Anyway : it's Mike who's got a nice site about the Marshall Studio 15. http://webpages.charter.net/mcarlyle/marshall/ It is your site, Mike? Bal. www.thirdson.tk Carl Freire heeft op maandag, 10 mei 2004 om 17:00 (Europe/Brussels) het volgende geschreven:
At 3:00 PM +0100 5/10/04, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote:
Mike Carlyle wrote:
On Saturday, May 8, 2004, at 07:55 PM, Bal wrote:
Carl wrote:
BTW, complete non-sequitur: What are DBing guitarists using for home recording?
I almost bought that marshall studio 15 second hand, but unfortunately I was too late. I understand you're an loyal user of the Studio 15 (nice website, Carl, and some nice sound clips)
Umm... I have a Marshall Studio 15. Carl might, too, but I think the jumble of quotes below misled you.
Carl (this Carl, anyway) doesn't have a Marshall Studio 15 (though I remember that one of my fave <snip>
This reminds this other Carl that he has been lurking for a long time (life has gotten extremely busy!).
My gear is as follows:
*1965 Fender Deluxe (my baby!--with tremolo, not reverb--bought it back in 1988 for about USD$250; finally got around to re-tubing it last year and it sound sweeter than ever) *1963 Reverb Box Reissue (an ugly brown, but who cares!--I run vocals through it sometimes, too) *Various pedals: Wah (Electro Harmonix), chorus (Boss), distortion (MXR), overdrive (Voodoo Labs SparkleDrive), noise suppressor (Boss).
*40th Anniversary Strat (my other baby!--a friend of mine who plays mainly Tele-s sold this to me at a great price last summer) refitted with Fender noiseless pickups *Epiphone LS-100 with DiMarzio PAF pickups *Ibanez Roadstar II--my first nice electric guitar received as a birthday present almost two decades ago (yikes!); the neck is really sweet, but it sits in its case most of the time now that the new baby is in town *some ridiculous Ibanez heavy metal bass (SDGR) that I play through the Deluxe--the neck is perfect for me and with lots of tinkering of tone knobs on bass and amp I can still get a warmish sound; got it in a trade for a Fernandes precision bass that had a neck about a mile wide *Takamine EN-10 acoustic/electric--sweet neck, but I've always been torn about the dreadnought body, which gives me a nice big sound but is, well, big
*Doggiebox--I use modified version of the Hemberger stereo kit, which had the soft snare hit to go with the hard one and all those hi-hat variations. I have yet to download the new software that allows velocity adjustments, so the Hemberger kit has been my kit of choice to give me more realistic sounding drum fills and hi-hat work. I wanted more variety with the cymbal sounds, though, so I imported rides and crashes from most of the other pre-2004 kits as well as the egg shakers and cowbells that got added to Ben's kit.
*I've gone through various multitrackers. I used the Fostex MR-8 for a little while, but while I liked the built-in reverb effects the digital sound was just too dry for me. I have a used Tascam 414MkI (they added the XLR input with the MkII) and the tape sound is much nicer. That said, I also have the freebie, 8-track version of ProTools on my Mac, too; given that I'm still mainly an OS9 user (the freebie is available only for OS9, at present anyway), it's fun to tinker with from time to time.
The big change for me is I finally invested in a Shure SM58 microphone. I had been using cheap Nady SP-9 microphones until now. Given that I record mainly in my apartment's living room, it's been hard to tinker around too much with microphone placement because I can't let the amp get too loud. The SM58 is more responsive, so it will at least let me step farther back from the mike to get more ambient sound.
A friend of mine long ago showed me a simple trick for getting even more ambience--just set up two microphones, one at the sound source (voice/instrument) and one someplace else in the room; record to two tracks; then bounce the two tracks down. I'll have to do this the next time I record.
Cheers, Carl --
**********
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Yes, it's my site. It's really more trouble than it's worth lately. A lot of people tend to email me with some very technical questions even though I try to clearly state that I'm not a gearhead. I'm glad it's gotten some attention over the years though. On Monday, May 10, 2004, at 05:22 PM, Musicbox wrote:
Allright, allright! I ment Mike CARLyle - there's 'Carl' in it, ain't it. So I made a mistake. Anyway : it's Mike who's got a nice site about the Marshall Studio 15. http://webpages.charter.net/mcarlyle/marshall/ It is your site, Mike?
Bal. www.thirdson.tk
Carl Freire heeft op maandag, 10 mei 2004 om 17:00 (Europe/Brussels) het volgende geschreven:
At 3:00 PM +0100 5/10/04, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote:
Mike Carlyle wrote:
On Saturday, May 8, 2004, at 07:55 PM, Bal wrote:
Carl wrote:
BTW, complete non-sequitur: What are DBing guitarists using for home recording?
I almost bought that marshall studio 15 second hand, but unfortunately I was too late. I understand you're an loyal user of the Studio 15 (nice website, Carl, and some nice sound clips)
Umm... I have a Marshall Studio 15. Carl might, too, but I think the jumble of quotes below misled you.
Carl (this Carl, anyway) doesn't have a Marshall Studio 15 (though I remember that one of my fave <snip>
This reminds this other Carl that he has been lurking for a long time (life has gotten extremely busy!).
My gear is as follows:
*1965 Fender Deluxe (my baby!--with tremolo, not reverb--bought it back in 1988 for about USD$250; finally got around to re-tubing it last year and it sound sweeter than ever) *1963 Reverb Box Reissue (an ugly brown, but who cares!--I run vocals through it sometimes, too) *Various pedals: Wah (Electro Harmonix), chorus (Boss), distortion (MXR), overdrive (Voodoo Labs SparkleDrive), noise suppressor (Boss).
*40th Anniversary Strat (my other baby!--a friend of mine who plays mainly Tele-s sold this to me at a great price last summer) refitted with Fender noiseless pickups *Epiphone LS-100 with DiMarzio PAF pickups *Ibanez Roadstar II--my first nice electric guitar received as a birthday present almost two decades ago (yikes!); the neck is really sweet, but it sits in its case most of the time now that the new baby is in town *some ridiculous Ibanez heavy metal bass (SDGR) that I play through the Deluxe--the neck is perfect for me and with lots of tinkering of tone knobs on bass and amp I can still get a warmish sound; got it in a trade for a Fernandes precision bass that had a neck about a mile wide *Takamine EN-10 acoustic/electric--sweet neck, but I've always been torn about the dreadnought body, which gives me a nice big sound but is, well, big
*Doggiebox--I use modified version of the Hemberger stereo kit, which had the soft snare hit to go with the hard one and all those hi-hat variations. I have yet to download the new software that allows velocity adjustments, so the Hemberger kit has been my kit of choice to give me more realistic sounding drum fills and hi-hat work. I wanted more variety with the cymbal sounds, though, so I imported rides and crashes from most of the other pre-2004 kits as well as the egg shakers and cowbells that got added to Ben's kit.
*I've gone through various multitrackers. I used the Fostex MR-8 for a little while, but while I liked the built-in reverb effects the digital sound was just too dry for me. I have a used Tascam 414MkI (they added the XLR input with the MkII) and the tape sound is much nicer. That said, I also have the freebie, 8-track version of ProTools on my Mac, too; given that I'm still mainly an OS9 user (the freebie is available only for OS9, at present anyway), it's fun to tinker with from time to time.
The big change for me is I finally invested in a Shure SM58 microphone. I had been using cheap Nady SP-9 microphones until now. Given that I record mainly in my apartment's living room, it's been hard to tinker around too much with microphone placement because I can't let the amp get too loud. The SM58 is more responsive, so it will at least let me step farther back from the mike to get more ambient sound.
A friend of mine long ago showed me a simple trick for getting even more ambience--just set up two microphones, one at the sound source (voice/instrument) and one someplace else in the room; record to two tracks; then bounce the two tracks down. I'll have to do this the next time I record.
Cheers, Carl -- **********
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