On 07/05/2006, at 7:03 PM, David Weisinger wrote:
It is a good question - how to reconcile this. One way would be something like:
Doggiebox is a 'slave' VST or other 'plugin' or something like that. Audio interfacing software like cubase, pro logic etc have their own 'times'.
The host application should have the 'master' time. So db would sit inside the host application as a slave (in terms of the time). When you press 'play' in cubase for example, your embedded db app starts as well. So they have to be synchronised and thats all that has to happen.
This is a great suggestion and one that would improve the song writing experience a lot. A few points I would note: If it can be done. ie the play button in the master app starts DoggieBox, you're still left with the case of when you want to start to play from, say, bar 12 and a half. I would guess that there will be a lot more programming involved than just a simple start function - synching through the song will be needed as well. Also, an RTAS version would be needed for us ProTools people. (Other plugin types as well??) In terms of functionality, it is not unlike the reverse of my suggestion a few months ago for Version 2 of DB... My idea was that DB imported the audio, rather than the master app "importing" DB ( see below). This wouldn't be as good as you couldn't change the audio without cranking up the audio editor again, but it does get around the different plugin formats that would need support. Ben are these at all possible. or are we just pissing in the wind here???? Here's what I wrote originally: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I have a suggestion for DB Version 2. How about adding the ability to include an audio track? My thinking is this. 1) I write a song 2) Create a Drum part and then add it to (in my case) Pro Tools. 3) I add guitars etc 4) I notice the drum part needs some frills etc. 5) Now the difficulties start. I have to edit the DB file without reference to the song itself. If I could import the song I have created in PT (less the drums) into DB I could play these together and get a much better feel for the drum part and how it would fit the song. I could see that is the second half of bar 18 in the bridge that needs a fill etc.... Instantly add it, play that bit again (with the audio) and see if it flies or not. Very much like MIDI editing, but using the nice friendly DB interface rather than the incredibly ugly MIDI screen lines. At the moment, I have my guitar on my lap as I hit the space bar to listen to the drum part, edit it, try again, usually stuffing it up as I miss the start... (you can fill in the blanks here). When it's all done I need to import the new drum track into PT and see how it really sounds. To audition it in DB would remove a lot of this hassle. The audio wouldn't need any editing abilities, just an import function and a play/mute button. It would always play in correct time as it was recorded against the original DB file. The only weird bit would be starting the DB part at bar x and having the sound file know where to start. Does any one else think this would be useful??? Cheers and a Happy New Year to all the DoggieBoxers out there. Charlie PS I suggested it as Version 2 as it would seem to be the sort of thing that a paid for update requires - if you want to add it to the current upgrades, go for it : - )