For those out there in DBland who've enjoyed messing around with ns_kit7free, the full version is on the verge of release. I was reading through the PDF manual that's linked from <http://www.naturalstudio.co.uk/ns_kit7.html> and the stupid level of detail in the sample collection is ... stupid! :) There are, for example, some 4200 hi-hat samples and even the damn cowbell gets 250+. But the sampling insanity only becomes _truly_ apparent when one reads about options for kick drums with or without pre-strike pedal noise or separate samples of brushes or sticks moving through the air ahead of a drum strike. Woah .... Clearly, 4200 samples of anything (let alone the hi-hat!) is really a level detail for the e-drummers out there and completely and utterly unusable in Doggiebox (until perhaps, like, DB v10 is released in 2014 :) On the other hand, the ns_kit7 samples list at only GBP 50, with 20% off on pre-orders before it ships in a week or two, and as sample packs go that seems to me a pretty decent price for what you get (and the samples will be useful pretty much forever). I plan on shuffling through the samples to put myself together a couple of dbkits with different characteristics (ns_kit7 is primed for use with the Halion sampler, and there are a few premade kits for that set up that I can use as guide for dbkits). Any dbkit would clearly use a very small subset of samples, but I should be able to put together kits that sound different but that were recorded in a very consistent ways. At any rate, I think the sample collection will be fun tool in the box! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea@carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/