Hey Carl, You bring up an interesting idea, placing hats and rides in the same group. Good logic, I think, since both are really timekeeping cymbals more than accent or coloring cymbals. But I choose to keep rides together with all other cymbals in group 4. I am careful to delete hi-hat strikes that would co-incide with ride strikes, and I use the same thinking for fills that involve toms. If there's a fill that uses toms, I'll drop out the hats (except for maybe a pedal) and any cymbal strike that would be nonsensical alongside whatever is going on with the toms. If you're using the export multiple files feature, you could, do a sub-mix of whatever's on the group 5 and group 4 channels. Of course, you can't mix 'within' each of those channels, but you can balance whatever's there. I find it a little bothersome that, if I strike two toms at the same time, one of them bounces to group 3 by default, forcing me to have to think about how to handle that in the mix when a tom all of a sudden ends up on a hi-hat channel (using export multiple files). There is no easy answer, but there's no wrong answer either! On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Carl Edlund Anderson <cea@carlaz.com> wrote:
Hey all,
In dbkits you've put together, which Group do you place ride cymbals in? So far, I've put rides in Group 4, along with high hats for little better reason than I think of using rides in a manner similar to hats. But more recently, in terms of mixing, I have been wondering whether it would be better to put rides in Group 5, where I have placed other cymbals? Would that possibly be more realistic in terms of typical drum mic'ing techniques? (About which I know virtually nothing, being almost entirely a "Doggiebox drummer"! ;))
The question came up because I have been mixing a new recording with DB drums in GarageBand, and I found that for one section where I switched from hats to rides, my rides were pretty low in the mix unless I ramped up the Master Volume controls for the individual ride sample Variants fairly aggressively in the dbkit editor. I haven't tried moving the rides over from Group 4 to Group 5 (wish there was a way to drag and drop Instruments, with all their Variants, between Groups! Or adjust the Master Volume settings for a whole set of Instrument Variants at once!) because I don't want to go through all that work as an experiment :) but I am wondering how this is approached by you others out there .....
Cheers, Carl
-- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/
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