Well, I'll have a look at this smpte, although I'm not really familiar with that (yet). In any case, thanks for the response. David --- Sage <sage@gypsycaravan.com> wrote:
Hm. So really, all you want is for Doggiebox to start playing when you hit the play button on your host. I'm not certain, but you may be able to do this with just a midi connection and the IAC Driver (basically just a software MIDI port) found in Audio Midi Setup.
Currently I have Doggiebox set up to output midi to the IAC Driver, which is automatically connected to Logic. This lets me open Logic, select an Instrument track, and load a sampler full of drum samples. Then I can work in Doggiebox and hear the drums in Logic. What I have noticed is that I have to turn off automatic smpte reception in Logic in order to keep Doggiebox from controlling Logic.
What you want to do is go the other way. It's been a while since I've used Cubase SX, but I'll bet you can get smpte output to the IAC Driver. You can certainly have Doggiebox use the IAC Driver as a midi input. The question is whether you can connect these so that when you hit Play in Cubase, Doggiebox plays as well.
So you may not even need VST or ReWire to do it. If you're looking for a higher level of integration, though, I would bet that you'd have a better chance getting ReWire support in Doggiebox, since it is already standalone and doesn't really fit the model of a VST plugin.
It is a good question - how to reconcile this. One way would be something like:
Doggiebox is a 'slave' VST or other 'plugin' or something like that. Audio interfacing software
cubase, pro logic etc have their own 'times'.
The host application should have the 'master' time. So db would sit inside the host application as a slave (in terms of the time). When you press 'play' in cubase for example, your embedded db app starts as well. So they have to be synchronised and thats all that has to happen. Once you have created your drum section using db, just follow the same guidelines for other midi created sections : ie export drums to midi file, import back in as midi (into cubase) and
back using some other VST plugin that specializes in drum sounds. The final step would be to export
as wave files before finally importing back in again so you can better manipulate (for reverb/compression etc) . I'm sure there are other ways it could happen, but I'm just theorizing.
What ya reckon about that ? And even if that is a good idea, whats the chance of the doggiebox dudes listening and saying, 'yeah - lets do that ' ??
Thanks for listening,
David
--- Sage <sage@gypsycaravan.com> wrote:
I understand this. But Doggiebox has its own timeline and play controls, completely independent of any external hosts. I don't know how you would reconcile the two -- for example, how would time signature and tempo changes in Doggiebox affect
host, and vice-versa?
I'll explain it so that you never have difficulty understanding it ever again! I am a songwriter. That means for me, I write my song first, then worry about drums. So, sure, a rewire would work too. As long as I can interactively hear my vocal and guitar and program the drums.
It actually helps with composition too. You write a song, you put some drums in and along the way realise that an extra bar is needed here and there, so you
the drums in, and re-record the song and keep repeating this until you are happy. From cubase, I used to do this with fruity loops, but I'm on mac now. Of course, doggiebox is its own app and thats fine - it just makes it more powerful and maximises its useage.
Thanks
David
--- Sage <sage@gypsycaravan.com> wrote:
Every now and again someone asks for this and it always seems totally backwards to me. Doggiebox's strength is not in its sound generation but in its composition capabilities. If anything, Doggiebox should be a VST or AU host, not a plugin.
You can output to WAV or MIDI if you want to import your drum tracks into Cubase. I do this with Logic and highly recommend it.
On 5/5/06, David Weisinger <d_weising@yahoo.com> wrote:
hi there. any plans to make doggiebox a
that I could for example, open cubase and
On 5/6/06, David Weisinger <d_weising@yahoo.com> wrote: put plugin so press
play
and make my drums as I hear my guitar
On 5/7/06, David Weisinger <d_weising@yahoo.com> wrote: like play that the playing
?
Thanks,
David
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