My highly amateurish attempts at drum programming in Doggiebox are now available to world ... and dog :) http://www.carlaz.com/music/rhythm.html There are half-a-dozen or so .dbsong files (with accompanying MP3 and WAV exports), mostly little 1- or 2-bar patterns but also the full .dbsong for a composition I'm working on (the enterprising could hack it up for parts). A couple of the patterns are sloppy attempts to imitate some well-known rock drumming patterns :) I've mostly been working with a tweaked version of a dbkit like the one Mike Carlyle put together from the ns_kit samples, though the rules for ns_kit use currently forbid me from putting my version of the kit up there as well. The only major change I've made from the sort of thing Mike Carlyle did is make a copy of the high tom sounds and shift their pitch up in a rather rough'n'ready fashion to create another "even higher tom", which I've dubbed an "alto tom" (simply to make the abbreviations easier). Anyway, I've tried to list the basic drum sounds that are needed for each of my dbsong files in order to aid with swapping in whatever kit you're using. The stuff probably sounds OK without my attempts to use samples of differing velocity and that sort of thing. Anyway, more grist for the Doggiebox mill :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea@carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/