September 2003 - Doggiebox - lists.zygoat.ca

ns_kit.dbkit downloads
by Mike Carlyle 22 Sep '03

22 Sep '03

I will probably remove the kit (mentioned in a previous list message) from my site sometime next week. I know Carl has gotten it, and Ben has had if for a while. Anyone else that cares to download it should do it within the next couple of days. Thanks.

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WAVs from SF2?
by Carl Edlund Anderson 20 Sep '03

20 Sep '03

Does anyone know a (free) tool for pulling WAVs (or AIFFs) out of SF2 soundfont files? I'm trying to get a the underlying samples out of the (freely downloadable) Natural Studio woodblocks <http://www.natural-studio.co.uk/ns_woodblock.htm>. It downloads as a .sfArk file, which I can turn into a regular soundfont, but I'm darned if I can pry the samples back out as WAVs or the like. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:carl@carlaz.com http://www. carlaz.com/

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Final(?) 1.0.4 beta posted
by Ben Kennedy 18 Sep '03

18 Sep '03

Greetings all, The third beta for 1.0.4 is now up. Grab it at <http:// www.doggiebox.com/distribution/Doggiebox-1A18.sit>. The only significant change from 1A17 is that the "save as" dialogs for exporting sounds and images from the drum kit editor are now implemented. Also, I've tweaked the look-and-feel of the Loop and Mono buttons in the song document window. Feedback on any of these things is appreciated. As soon as I can update the documentation to reflect all of the new goodies in 1.0.4, barring any bug reports from this version, 1.0.4 should hit the streets. -ben -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca

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(no subject)
by dpwalsh6＠cox.net 16 Sep '03

16 Sep '03

Has anyone thought of making a few basic rock beats available to d/l? It would be a huge help to those of us having trouble getting the step-writing thing going. I've been going to a few free drum lesson sites and putting in some of the charts to get a grasp of this but most of that stuff is rudiments and aren't really all that useful for jamming with. To see a few useable (even typical) beats and be able to de-construct them would do wonders. Though I understand that most people using this software already know what their doing, nor do i expect them to hold my hand. Still trying, Dan Walsh

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Fwd: Re: Re: ns_kit for Doggiebox
by Ben Kennedy 15 Sep '03

15 Sep '03

Hey folks, Things not looking so good for an "official" Doggiebox version of ns_kit... on the other hand, I can't see what might prevent a third party from making it available somewhere. I'm going to e-mail Douglas back and see if I can challenge his interpretation though (since Doggiebox is usable in its unregistered form, and the kit library is free for anyone to download from). -ben ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- Subject: Re: Re: ns_kit for Doggiebox Date Sent: Monday, 15 September 2003 2:52 pm From: Natural Studio (Douglas Whates) <info(a)naturalstudio.co.uk> To: Ben Kennedy <ben(a)zygoat.ca> Hi Ben, I was just checking out your site and noticed that doggiebox isn't free. I somehow just presumed it was. It does look like a great product, but I'd have to say no to allowing you to freely allowing you to distribute a DB version of nskit from your site. Sorry! Douglas. ----------------- End Forwarded Message ----------------- -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca

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Thanks for the help
by dpwalsh6＠cox.net 15 Sep '03

15 Sep '03

Thanks so much you guys. Once I get a better grasp of this stuff, I'll throw up a link to anything I record using Doggiebox. Thanks again for the help... in advance. Later, Dan Walsh

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Re: [Doggiebox] MOTU DP4 vs. ProTools LE
by Ben Kennedy 11 Sep '03

11 Sep '03

Cool, I appreciate the feedback Richard! (Since this did not seem to make it to the list, I'm CCing this reply) I ended up deciding to go with the MOTU for now. Some reasons: - cost is cheaper by 50% - bundled software may suit me, if not, i can upgrade to full DP4 for a couple hundred bucks - more onboard mix capabilities - level meters on front of the unit I've got zero experience with midi and probably won't be doing any such recording for awhile (my main interest is recording actual instruments performed by humans) but it's cool to know that DP is good in that regard. My sense was also that while ProTools is the "de facto standard" in the industry, they are similarly limited to not changing their software much for fear of inconveniencing seasoned users (see Macworld review in the recent June issue I think). Thus I can hope that MOTU's software might be more innovative in some regards. Oh yes, another factor was that unlike ProTools, if I were to upgrade to DP4 I would then be able to take sessions on the road with me and mix from my powerbook without having to lug around the 19" hardware dongle. Anyway, I ordered the unit a day or two ago and it is supposedly somewhere in a UPS truck en route to me now, so I will post again with my impressions once I've played with it some. :) -ben On 11 9 2003 at 12:00 pm -0400, richard hunt wrote: >Ben / All > >I have owned both brands - Digi 001 and a Motu DP3 w/ 24i > >I like both differently - The beauty of ProTools is that the software >always runs. It will not let you add more effects that it can play. >The system never crashed and worked. > >I recently traded a mic for a MOTU 24i and didn't think much of the >system until I tracked a live session. AWESOME. 13 tracks live for >180 minutes - 0 problems... I then started working with the midi >software much better than the ProTools. It integrates with Unity and >Reason like they are part of the system... > >If you are working a studio where you rent the room to clients I would >purchase the Digidesign simply for the marketing aspect alone. It >probably does a better job of the actual recording process... > >If you are working on your own work and using Midi the Motu offers more >features and functionality that ProTools out of the box. The mastering >software included is very good. > >Richard > >PS - We are experimenting with Digidesign TDM and Motu hardware as a >live mixing console. We have been very successful with both systems >under differing test. The best we have accomplished is live 48 tracks >with over 100 effects - mixing live and recording at the same time.... > >On Saturday, September 6, 2003, at 03:11 PM, Ben Kennedy wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> I am on the verge of dropping a bunch of clams on either a MOTU 828mkII >> or a Digidesign 002 Rack system. Does anybody have any particular >> feedback or preferences regarding ProTools vs. Digital Performer? >> >> (As an aside, I know that DP4 supports AudioUnit plug-ins... but does >> ProTools LE?) >> >> Getting this system set up will not only give me better tools with >> which >> to record and mix my own stuff, but should be a precursor to support >> for >> better external integration with Doggiebox for such apps...) >> >> -ben >> >> -- >> Ben Kennedy, chief magician >> zygoat creative technical services >> 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 >> http://www.zygoat.ca >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> Zygoat Doggiebox discussion list - <http://www.doggiebox.com> >> To unsubscribe, view archives or change your options: >> <http://lists.zygoat.ca/mailman/listinfo/doggiebox> >> > -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca

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Velocity control
by Carl Anderson 11 Sep '03

11 Sep '03

I'm just quickly putting my vote on this item from the "Forthcoming feature concepts" list: >more control over dynamics: individual velocity adjustments per drum and >per bar. Though does this imply one would be able to accent an individual drum hit (e.g. put a little extra force on that first note of the triplet, or the kick drum on the downbeat)?? That would be excellent, since at present I can think of no way to accomplish that except by having a second, "accented" sample for each kind of drum in the drum kit pallete. Or is a second, higher velocity sample, the only way to effect that? If so, would it make sense to build higher velocity, accented samples into the drum kits, but then access those sounds in the Doggiebox UI by simply designating a given hit as "accented" (and Doggiebox would know "behind the scenes" to use the second, higher velocity sample on that hit)?? How would this sort of thing work? Cheers, Carl -- Carl E. Anderson mailto:cea@ncipher.com http://www.ncipher.com/ nCipher Corporation Ltd. +44 1223 723690 Fax: +44 1223 723601

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MOTU DP4 vs. ProTools LE
by Ben Kennedy 07 Sep '03

07 Sep '03

Hey all, I am on the verge of dropping a bunch of clams on either a MOTU 828mkII or a Digidesign 002 Rack system. Does anybody have any particular feedback or preferences regarding ProTools vs. Digital Performer? (As an aside, I know that DP4 supports AudioUnit plug-ins... but does ProTools LE?) Getting this system set up will not only give me better tools with which to record and mix my own stuff, but should be a precursor to support for better external integration with Doggiebox for such apps...) -ben -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca

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