Doggiebox October 2007

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Re: [Doggiebox] Doggiebox Digest, Vol 49, Issue 3
by David Sampson 31 Oct '07

31 Oct '07

Guys, First, my reference to Doug was a confusion in my own mind. I was using a music scoring tool (MuseEdit) that was developed by Doug Rogers, that like DB fell by the wayside. So apologies for the confusion. Second, I still LOVE the DB grid UI. Funny how no one out there has replicated it. That's why I share your concerns and would like to see DB survive. This was some great work, but it is nearing 2 years since it was updated. Third: I bit the bullet and bought Strike from DigiDesign. As an electronic drummer, it sounds incredible. However, the pattern editor is not very good. It could sure use a DB makeover. Also, it only works with Pro Tools. I have that and just bought Logic Studio (mainly for all the bundled instruments - PT is still my preferred music sequencer). The bad news is right now PT doesn't work on leopard. Digidesign is going to release an update, but that could be a month from now (for all I know). Logic wouldn't start on leopard until I renamed the Rewire folders in the application support folders. Fourth: I have also bought several drum loop packages from Betamonkeymusic.com . These are high quality, and if you watch the specials, you can get them at a very good price. He also has samples that you can map to DB. Hopefully, we will hear something about DB soon. regards dave > Basically, I am ready to upgrade to Leopard, but I > won't until I have > a decent software drum solution. > > I don't suppose any new products have appeared on > the market that work > as well as DoggieBox? (Or even almost as good as > DoggieBox?) I am > still surprised there aren't similarly designed > products out there. It > really is a great product. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [Doggiebox] Doggie Box on Leopard
by Carl Edlund Anderson 31 Oct '07

31 Oct '07

On 30 Oct 2007, at 19:22 , Michael Carlyle wrote: > I would not expect DB to go open source. That's the product > management equivalent of giving away the keys to the storeroom. If > it really is a Zygoat flagship product, how does one expect them to > profit in anyway by opening up the code to the world? I wouldn't expect DB to go Open Source either -- though at the moment I can't help but think that, regardless of what's in the storeroom, the store front is looking a bit unattended .... :/ Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/

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Re: [Doggiebox] Doggie Box on Leopard
by ComposersNewPencil 31 Oct '07

31 Oct '07

Hello there. I am a Doggie Box user and I also share your concerns. I've been wondering when that update will come, or if it's going to come at all. I run a music composition site and forum, and it just occurred to me that I could open a forum exclusively for Doggie Box users. That's if some of you are interested. Even if it's only four or five of us, we could share some tips and tricks. Well just an idea. Let me know what you guys think. Anyway, I would hate for this little program to become obsolete. It's really a handy little tool. Regards, Fabrizio M. http://www.composersnewpencil.com

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Re: [Doggiebox] Doggie Box on Leopard
by Mark Cain 31 Oct '07

31 Oct '07

I emailed the info email given on the zygoat site about this. Basically, I am ready to upgrade to Leopard, but I won't until I have a decent software drum solution. I don't suppose any new products have appeared on the market that work as well as DoggieBox? (Or even almost as good as DoggieBox?) I am still surprised there aren't similarly designed products out there. It really is a great product. Mark

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Doggie Box on Leopard
by David Sampson 30 Oct '07

30 Oct '07

Michael, I have tried it too and it behaves as you described i.e. un-useable. I also looked in the log file and saw several memory leak exceptions listed. I share your disappointment. I really love Doggie Box's user interface and had hoped, like others on this list, that additional functionality and universal binaries would be added over time. I guess the revenue flow has decreased to where Doug isn't interested anymore. Doggie Box was written as a Carbon application (judging from the log file output). So to progress forward, it would need to be made Cocoa based as a minimum. Don't know if Doug has any plans for that. However, if Doug truly views this as dead, would he consider releasing the code as open source? Doug? thanks dave > 1. Doggiebox with Leopard? (Michael McFarland > Watson) > > > Hey all, > > Has anyone tried Doggiebox under the new version of > Mac OS? One of my > friends just installed Leopard and Doggiebox has > massive audio > latency issues (aka the sound skips horribly) and > even when not in > use it was taking up 50% of his Macbook Pro's CPU. > > I use doggiebox all the time, and it would be > unfortunate to lose > that ability upon upgrading. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [Doggiebox] Facing DB's Future
by Sterling Beckwith 29 Oct '07

29 Oct '07

Hey guys, that's a good start! Some key issues affecting all users of "homemade" special-purpose software are already surfacing here. For example, how many of us tend to assume that just because we happen to use a particular program, we are somehow entitled to receive regular updates from some unseen hand, preferably without charge? Or that the process of improving any software program is mostly a matter of adding a few more cool features? How many users, let alone user communities, actually feel some responsibility for assuring the survival of "their" program on the software market, or have any appreciation of what establishing and maintaining the marketability of such a specialized software product as this one entails? Theses days we are used to taking our clean water for granted, without ever coming anywhere near knowing or paying its actual costs. We are used to grabbing lots of "free" software off the internet, and lots of "free" music and video and images too. Good tools are however seldom free, and they tend to evolve slowly, with significant amounts of help from their earliest users. We may lose this one if we cannot figure out together how to keep it alive. -Sterling

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