Doggiebox June 2005

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by Sion Morris 01 Nov '05

01 Nov '05

Nice song Mike. I'd echo what Carl said - I think you can dispose of your vocalist - your voice is in fact great! You remind me a bit of Michael Stipe. Its particularly good when the harmonies come in. Seriously, you should be singing as well as playing. I banged this on my mp3 player this evening, set to 'repeat' and had it on a loop for ages and can't really find any fault. Its the best example yet of a believable 'real drummer' sound - that technique of slight speedup works really well. I'll be looking again at the nskit - it has a great 'clean studio sound. Any chance you could send the drum db over for me to look at for tips? Cheers Sion Morris Liverpool www.cinnamondesign.co.uk/music/music.html ------------------------------------------- > http://webpages.charter.net/mcarlyle/sounds/comealive-01.mp3 > > My singer didn't show up so I gave it a go myself. I don't know if > I'll be doing much more of this kind of singing. I'm going through the > "I hate my voice" thing. > > The drums are all Doggiebox using nskit v.7. I really like the polish > and natural feel of this kit. I need to tone the toms down a little > bit, but one thing at a time. This is an example of "pushing the > tempo" during the chorus to make the thing feel a little more human. > > I had posted this before, but at the time it had no vocals and was > fairly bare bones. This is an all new version using my new gear (MXL > 990 mic, M-Audio monitors, Tascam US-122 interface, Fender Pro > Junior... the list goes on.

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MIDI Interaction with Roland SPD-S
by Chris Wicklas 21 Jul '05

21 Jul '05

Hi Everybody, I have read through past posts and haven¹t been able to find an answer to my question. I¹m curious to know if there is a way for me have a Roland SPD-S control the start/stop of patterns in DB. I am just a beginner when it comes to MIDI, so forgive me if this is a simple question. Let me explain. I am using DB as a click to play along with live. I created sections for each of my band¹s songs. Each section consists of a 1 bar phrase that loops with the song¹s tempo... In essence, a database of songs and tempos. When we play live, I create a playlist to mirror our set list of the songs from the sections list. I can then easily start/stop the click for each song by hitting the space bar on my Powerbook and then the down arrow to move on to the next song. This works pretty well, but it would work even better if I could figure out a way to control the start/stop, or maybe even the moving on to the next pattern from the Roland via a foot switch or extra pad. Is this possible? Or is there a way to connect a foot switch directly to the Powerbook which would do the same thing? The Roland is currently connected to a 1ghz Titanium Powerbook via a USB to MIDI controller. I can succussfully use the Roland to record drum parts in GarageBand, so I know the connection works. I haven¹t tried it in DB yet. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Chris -- "If you can't hear me, it's because I'm in parentheses." - Steven Wright Visit me on the web -- http://www.thedrummist.com

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OFFish: Flowchart (Slight Return)
by Sion Morris 26 Jun '05

26 Jun '05

Yes Flowchart is a favourite of mine too. Great bass sound too - rrrreally chunky - early McCartney style and cool wah wah sound to the solo too. did i mention great lyrics. Mikes other stuff is pretty good and getting better too by my reckoning - Flowchart is the best to date and is on my sub-ipod mp3 player. Sion Morris Liverpool www.cinnamondesign.co.uk/music/music.html ------------------------------------------- > Heh, whilst letting the ol' iPod randomize its way through the day, > MC's "Flowchart" chart, with its Doggiebox drums (LudwigII kit, > no?), popped up. Until I remembered it was done by Mike, I didn't > pick up anything to tell me "homemade", nor "drum machine" for that > matter. Passes the casual listening test :) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > mailto:cea@carlaz.com > http://www.carlaz.com/ > > > > > From: Thorsten Kummer <thorsten.kummer(a)gmx.de> > Date: 24 June 2005 8:02:15 am BDT > To: Doggiebox List <doggiebox(a)lists.zygoat.ca> > Subject: Re: [Doggiebox] OFFish: Flowchart (Slight Return) > > > Hi, > > that's exactly what came to my mind when I first heard "Flowchart". > Sounds perfect to me. Even better than "come alive". > I think it has something to do with the drum set that he used, I > love the boomy stuff from the Ludwig kit. > > Regards > Thorsten >

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OFFish: Flowchart (Slight Return)
by Carl Edlund Anderson 24 Jun '05

24 Jun '05

Heh, whilst letting the ol' iPod randomize its way through the day, MC's "Flowchart" chart, with its Doggiebox drums (LudwigII kit, no?), popped up. Until I remembered it was done by Mike, I didn't pick up anything to tell me "homemade", nor "drum machine" for that matter. Passes the casual listening test :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea@carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/

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apply to section- beta observation
by Mike Carlyle 21 Jun '05

21 Jun '05

Sometimes I want to change the tempo of a song section. In order to do this, I have to shift-click to select the first and last measure of that section. It can be frustrating for longer sections. How feasible would it be to include a checkbox in the song inspector that would allow you to apply tempo changes to entire sections? Do sections exist as units that can be modified within the underpinnings of Doggiebox? ____________ Mike Carlyle Wilbraham, MA USA

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ns_kit7 news
by Carl Edlund Anderson 16 Jun '05

16 Jun '05

For those out there in DBland who've enjoyed messing around with ns_kit7free, the full version is on the verge of release. I was reading through the PDF manual that's linked from <http://www.naturalstudio.co.uk/ns_kit7.html> and the stupid level of detail in the sample collection is ... stupid! :) There are, for example, some 4200 hi-hat samples and even the damn cowbell gets 250+. But the sampling insanity only becomes _truly_ apparent when one reads about options for kick drums with or without pre-strike pedal noise or separate samples of brushes or sticks moving through the air ahead of a drum strike. Woah .... Clearly, 4200 samples of anything (let alone the hi-hat!) is really a level detail for the e-drummers out there and completely and utterly unusable in Doggiebox (until perhaps, like, DB v10 is released in 2014 :) On the other hand, the ns_kit7 samples list at only GBP 50, with 20% off on pre-orders before it ships in a week or two, and as sample packs go that seems to me a pretty decent price for what you get (and the samples will be useful pretty much forever). I plan on shuffling through the samples to put myself together a couple of dbkits with different characteristics (ns_kit7 is primed for use with the Halion sampler, and there are a few premade kits for that set up that I can use as guide for dbkits). Any dbkit would clearly use a very small subset of samples, but I should be able to put together kits that sound different but that were recorded in a very consistent ways. At any rate, I think the sample collection will be fun tool in the box! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea@carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/

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Re: keyboard shortcuts
by Dan Costello 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

Hey Ben-- Remember we were talking about keyboard shortcuts a while back. I do actually have a reason for wanting a particular setup, and I'm curious if others would find this useful as well. Right now, with DB's current programming, the best way (imho) to set up the keyboard shortcuts is to have ALL of the same "drum type" under one key, and just cycle through them by hitting that same key multiple times until you get the one you want. This works great for many reasons, one being the limited number of keys you need to remember to be able to access every drum in the kit. The drawback(s) to that, though: you can't "play" that same drum more than once with the key-- because the next time you hit it, it cycles to the next variant. And unless you give each drum its own distinct "drum type" name, you can't play one drum type on one key and then its variant on another key in succession. (Remember the example I gave, in vol. 20, #5 of the digest.) AND if you have a lot of variants for that one drum and you go past it, you have to cycle all the way through all the other variants to get back around to it. AND you can't go straight back to a variant after choosing a different drum type-- the next time you hit that key for that drum, it goes to the default variant, or the top one in the list if no default has been chosen. I've found that actually "playing" the kit from the keyboard is not only fun, but useful. Sometimes my fingers stumble across a groove that I otherwise wouldn't have written (just like on any instrument-- writing FOR it and writing ON it are often very different processes). Then I just try to write down what I played. And, if I have someone else in the room looking for a particular beat, rather than having to write out the beat and hit play every time I adjust it, before I actually write any of it down I can "play" the beat for them live, by using the keyboard shortcuts. Maybe I'm just being silly about it, but I like the ability to play my Mac keyboard as a drum machine, and I think it broadens DB's usefulness to have that ability. It seems like it would be possible to change the KB shortcut assignments section of the code to accommodate this... any chance you could put this on the wish list? Thanks, Dan

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1E10, come 'n get 'er
by Ben Kennedy 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

Hey folkses, A new build is now up at <http://www.doggiebox.com/distribution/ Doggiebox-1E10.tbz>. Improvements this time around: - You may now insert more than one bar at a time by option-clicking the "Insert Bar" button in the inspector, or hitting cmd-option-shift-I. A field will reveal in the inspector palette prompting for the number of bars. - New slider in the Inspector panel for choosing the default velocity of new drums added to the pattern editor (requested by Sage). - Improved behaviour with Paste; also, new Paste Over command. - Discontiguous beat selection (temporarily disabled in last build) is now working again. There are a number of bugs which I have acknowledged but not yet fixed (e.g. several that Håkon pointed out regarding weird tempo problems when inserting multiple 6|8 bars and so on). I will investigate these soon. Also, the fine folks at MacZealots posted last weekend a wonderful Doggiebox review (based on the last beta). Check it out at <http:// maczealots.com/reviews/doggiebox/>. -ben -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca

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Velocity adjustment in main window?
by Sage 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

The new velocity adjustment is fantastic. Two questions: 1. Will this actually affect velocity of midi notes when exporting to midi? 2. Would it be possible to place a velocity adjustment bar on the main window (perhaps near the master volume bar) to control velocity of new notes entered into the grid?

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doggie as the slave
by lori wachter 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

hi there, is it possibleto slave doggiebox with garageband. i guess like how idrum works? thanks

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Doggiebox June 2005