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Drum kit with AIFF
by lee gummerman 07 Jan '03

07 Jan '03

I'm creating a custom kit in 1A6 using some AIFF samples. DB lets me select the files (which play fine in QuickTime) but I don't get any sound when I play a song using the kit. Should this work? Are there any known issues/workarounds? Thanks, Lee

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Re: [doggiebox] No sounds, had to force quit...
by DefRider71＠aol.com 30 Dec '02

30 Dec '02

Same exact thing happened to me, except it quit by itself. Also, the dots did not show up in the editor for me (Jaguar). The play/stop button kept switching from play to stop. -- Greg Fiumara DefRider71(a)aol.com

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1A6 will be up later today
by Ben Kennedy 28 Dec '02

28 Dec '02

Hey all, 1A6 (aka 1.0f) will be uploaded later today... I will post another message when it's finally up. I'm on dialup service right now, and after waiting around for about an hour after restarting uploads several times with several clients, I'm giving up and going to bed (it's now 2 a.m. here). Anyway, here's what there is to look forward to: * Resolved incompatibility with Mac OS X 10.2.3. * Introduction of a long-awaited playback position indicator. * Fixed bug where drum sounds were not playing while editing the song. * Fixed a crash that would occur when loading a song whose drum kit is not available, and the load is subsequently canceled or a substitute kit is not specified. * Plus a handful of miscellaneous UI improvements (export audio dialog, zooming, remembering window positions). Hope everyone is enjoying the Christmas (or holiday-of-choice) break! -b -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca

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New version out?
by Max 28 Dec '02

28 Dec '02

hey ben, when will the new version be out? i kinda need it on monday, if you are on a holiday, don't listen to me :) thx max

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Can't open files anymore...
by Max van Essen 21 Dec '02

21 Dec '02

Hey, I updated to 10.2.3 today and now I can't open a song anymore! If I try it, DB just quits unexpectedly... More people have this problem?? Already tried to delete the preferences but that didn't work... Max

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Doggiebox 1A5
by zenbubblegum (jonathan wilson) 18 Dec '02

18 Dec '02

AIFF (etc) export in 1A5 is great news - just what I've been waiting for. A couple of other things have occurred to me when using DB lately: Someone else on this list recently very kindly offered to convert their AKAI files to DB format and put an example TR-707 kit on their website for download. I got hold of the kit and it sounds great - if that person wants to do a load more, as they suggested they might, I'd be more than happy to get my paws on them. Thanks a lot for the 707! The only trouble is I can't see my drum "hits" in the DB window using the 707 kit - is there a way round this? With the Premier and Voice kits I can see the pattern, but not with "external" kits. Also, I don't know if this is already possible, but if a default setup could open when I launch the program that would be perfect. What I mean is if there was a preference for automatically opening a new song with 4 bars, or 8 bars, or 16 bars, or whatever. It'd save having to open the Insert Bars dialogue window every time. If this is already possible, sorry - ignore this! Otherwise, Doggiebox is shaping up very nicely indeed. Good stuff! Regards, Jonathan Wilson

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Bug found...
by Max van Essen 18 Dec '02

18 Dec '02

hey ben, love the new release, good work, but i found a bug... i don't know if it was already there with previous builds, but here it is: if you open a song and db can't find the drum kit, it will ask for one, if you click cancel in the window instead of continue, it quits unexpectedly... that's it... max

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RE: [doggiebox] Can't save AIFF completely?
by Aiken, Phillip 18 Dec '02

18 Dec '02

Same exact situation here. Also, and most likely not coincidentally, OS 10.1 -Phil Aiken -----Original Message----- From: Billy Krahl [SMTP:wekrahl@us.ibm.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 6:31 PM To: doggiebox(a)lists.zygoat.ca Subject: Re: [doggiebox] Can't save AIFF completely? I am using Mac OS X 10.1+ and using the latest release, loaded the file from previous build. I imported the file to AIFF and the progress bar progressed to completion but it didn't close. QuickTime opened this aiff file but complained of unspecified time length. I tried other import formats. Same thing. Anyone capable of a successful import? Must I use Mac OS X 10.2? Billy IBM Software Tester--Dokimazo pas (translates to: test, examine, prove, or scrutinise all things) - 1 Thes 5:21 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Zygoat Doggiebox home page: http://www.zygoat.ca/products/doggiebox/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: doggiebox-unsubscribe(a)lists.zygoat.ca For additional commands, e-mail: doggiebox-help(a)lists.zygoat.ca

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Re: [doggiebox] Can't save AIFF completely?
by Billy Krahl 17 Dec '02

17 Dec '02

I am using Mac OS X 10.1+ and using the latest release, loaded the file from previous build. I imported the file to AIFF and the progress bar progressed to completion but it didn't close. QuickTime opened this aiff file but complained of unspecified time length. I tried other import formats. Same thing. Anyone capable of a successful import? Must I use Mac OS X 10.2? Billy IBM Software Tester--Dokimazo pas (translates to: test, examine, prove, or scrutinise all things) - 1 Thes 5:21

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Re: [doggiebox] Doggiebox 1A5, with full export support!
by Billy Krahl 16 Dec '02

16 Dec '02

> The biggest news for this release though is that export-to-AIFF (and in fact, about a dozen other file formats too) is now a reality, THANKS SOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!!!!! Billy IBM Software Tester--Dokimazo pas (translates to: test, examine, prove, or scrutinise all things) - 1 Thes 5:21

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Doggiebox 1A5, with full export support!
by Ben Kennedy 16 Dec '02

16 Dec '02

Greetings all, Build 1A5 is up! http://www.zygoat.ca/products/doggiebox/download.php As mentioned earlier this week on the list, there are a couple of bug fixes regarding drum precedence (hi hats now close where they should), plus a problem with saving drum kits that would trash all the drum icons. The biggest news for this release though is that export-to-AIFF (and in fact, about a dozen other file formats too) is now a reality, so you can start using your beats in other apps like ProTools and whatnot! Woo hoo! As usual, please report any strangeness, weird behaviour, bugs, etc. Much of the underlying rendering code has changed since the last release. Also, I've compressed the archive with DropStuff 7.0, which seems to have yielded about a 10% file size reduction. I hope that isn't indicative of a file which is incompatible with older versions of StuffitExpander. If you have problems with the archive, please let me know. enjoy, -ben -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca

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Icons for Drum Editor
by Phill & Sue Boye 12 Dec '02

12 Dec '02

I have figured out how the drum editor works but there seem to be no icons to use, and you can¹t tell where the drums are with no icons. I experimented using the little icon images in osx (the logon ones eg dog/cat/cheeta) but they only are visible in the list of the drum editor not in the list when adding to a song. Thanks Phill

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Fwd: Re: [doggiebox] gumbo
by Ben Kennedy 10 Dec '02

10 Dec '02

---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- Subject: Re: [doggiebox] gumbo Date Sent: (Monday) 09 December 2002 10:22 am From: Aubrey Scarbrough <augustbody(a)earthlink.net> To: Doggiebox <doggiebox(a)lists.zygoat.ca> Has anyone had success in making a 2/2 meter gumbo beat? I can't seem to get that swingin' two feel.

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Status report, and questionnaire
by Ben Kennedy 08 Dec '02

08 Dec '02

Greetings all, This is just a brief message to let you know where things are at with Doggiebox! First of all, the "lack of muting problem" is fixed for the next build. This is the one where certain drum sounds should cause earlier sounds to stop, but currently don't (e.g. a closed hi-hat following an open hi-hat, or a hand-muted crash cymbal following a normal hit on the same crash). Secondly, the mechanics for audio file export of the whole song is now in place, and I have it working locally. There is still more to be done, but I hope to post a new build -- complete with audio export -- within the next couple of days! Third, I would appreciate your feedback in a brief Doggiebox questionnaire. It should only take a minute or two to fill out. Visit it here: <http://www.zygoat.ca/products/doggiebox/questionnaire.php> thanks, -ben -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca

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Drum Kits Anyone?
by Steve Kirks 08 Dec '02

08 Dec '02

Wondering if anyone has any alternative drum kits out there to load. Thanks for the Premier kit, Ben, but I'm looking for a snappier snare. Also, I'm working up some songs to help me learn some basic drum techniques. Would anyone like to share any songs they have? Steve Kirks

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My mistake, please excuse it.
by Gavin and Danica MacNeil 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

Sorry Ben, I haven't been able to recreate the tempo pulling problem.... I am not sure why.. I do like how it is working now. I don't think I was using it properly. When sliding off the button it maintains the pulled/pushed tempo. When simply pressing the button it only momentarily changes it. Is it 7% percent of the BPM? IE: If BPM=120 then pull 7% BPM , BPM then = 128.4? If so, why not display both the percentage and the end resulting BPM? How was your trip? Thanks, Gavin.

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tempo pulling...
by Gavin and Danica MacNeil 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

Hi Ben, I just updated to Jaguar and decided to check out the dog's box.. Jaguar is fast... Anyways created a bar of 4/4 and just looped it and added some drums here and there. Then pulled the tempo to 150% and then tried to pull it back. The notch then jumped back to 150 not letting me back down in tempo. I don't remember this problem in OS X, but maybe I never tried it. I really like your program Ben, the interface is very friendly... I gotta get some sort of audio interface so that I can play along with the imac. Thanks, Gavin.

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Doggiebox 1A4 posted
by Ben Kennedy 22 Nov '02

22 Nov '02

Hey all, Just a quick note to let yall know that a new build of Doggiebox is up. This time it's just simple bug fixes; due to other contracts, the last several weeks have been particularly busy for me. I look forward to getting onto new features by early December. However, a couple of the most annoying problems you've reported have been squashed in this build: - Fixed bug where a crash could occur if a bar were deleted when the insertion point was immediately after it. - Fixed bug where song would continue to play after closing the window. - Fixed bug where playback would skip over the last beat in the song (or selection) when looping. - Fixed bug where extra noise (typically an annoying buzz) would sound repeatedly after playing a song until you quit the program. Grab it at http://www.zygoat.ca/products/doggiebox/download.php Now I'm off to visit New York City for the next three days, and then return to more work! There are several people who have e-mailed recently and deserve personal replies; I apologize for not having had time to get back to you, but I shall next week. In the mean time, enjoy, -ben -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca

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Doggiebox gives me a persistent buzz.
by J. Musick 10 Nov '02

10 Nov '02

Hello. All puns aside, I like this program a lot. Thanks for developing it. I'm new to the list so I apologize if any of these issues have already been raised/addressed. Here we go: 1. There is a buzz during the playback of certain drum sounds. This happened particularly badly when I made my own kit and previewed the sounds. I actually had to quit the program to get the buzz to stop. Related to this issue, are there guidelines to making drum sounds that I don't know about? 2. Will Doggiebox ever ship with default drum icons? I made a kit assuming they'd be in there. I was wrong and consequently couldn't see where I was putting my drums. 3. Will there ever be channel soloing and or muting? This isn't a big priority right now, I was just curious. I'm also using version 1A3. That's all for now. Thanks very much. Josh. | Joshua Musick | mailto:josh@dogmuseum.com | phone: 608.442.5259 | cell: 917.304.6101 "Confidence of creating deliciousness. This tastiness can not be carried even by both hands."

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OT - expired mac.com accounts...
by Ben Kennedy 10 Nov '02

10 Nov '02

Heyall, If Lucas Haley or Max van Essen are reading this, can you send me e-mail off-list -- I've tried to e-mail you some replies to (old) messages and your mac.com accounts are bouncing. :) -ben -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca

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I'm Back
by Max van Essen 09 Nov '02

09 Nov '02

hey guys, I'm back, with my new email address... :) You said that you replied to me? can you send the message again please?? thx Max

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Re: Doggie box 1A3 bug
by Ben Kennedy 05 Nov '02

05 Nov '02

On 30,10,02 at 11:03 am -0500, Tom Christy wrote: >The new alpha's notes indicate that you have fixed bugs in 3/8 and 5/8 time. >However, 7/8 still doesn't work. > >If I enter 7/8 as the time signature, it now _displays_ the measures >properly, with 7 divisions. However, when I play the music, it plays it in >3/8 and doubles up the beats at the end. Tom, Thanks for the report. There is a bug in 1A3 where the very last beat in the playback (if playing the whole song, or in the selection, if playing just the selection) does not get the proper duration -- it effectively trips over itself immediately when looping back to the beginning. This will be fixed in the next build. I'm assuming that's what you're hearing with the doubling-up at the end. Can you describe in more detail what you mean by it playing in 3/8? I've just created a test song, with two consecutive bars in 7/8 (a la NIN march of the pigs), and it plays back as I would expect -- definitely got the 7 thing going on. -ben -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca

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Insert more bars?
by Gavin and Danica MacNeil 05 Nov '02

05 Nov '02

Hi Ben, I had a song that was 102 bars long (accidentally inserted several using the insert bars again command) it had 3 different time changes in it. I was frustrated with the fact that I did have 102 bars (too long) so I decided to select all and clear everything.... Now working in the same song, now empty, I try to Insert Bars (32 bars of 2/4 at 300bpm) and they don't show up in the display. I tried to recreate this (I wasn't taking notes): New song: Inserted 32 bars of 2/4 @320 bpm. Put a variety of drums in all over the place. Tried to section the piece into various sections: 1 to 32, 3 to 32 and 32 to 17. (I find this feature hard to use). I played the song a couple times through, pulled the master tempo to 136%, looped playback and then tried to insert more bars. 32 bars of 2/4 @300 bpm, got nothing. Tried the insert more bars again and got nothing. I then selected all the bars and cleared everything 'song is empty'. Again tried to insert more bars and got nothing. Hmm, I am using 10.1.5 (hoping that Jaguar is in my mailbox) with 1A3. Oh yeah with your voice drums. I have never really tested software before, so I hope this stands as an ok bug report.. Later, Gavin.

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Re: [doggiebox-announce] Doggiebox build 1A3 available!
by Ben Kennedy 30 Oct '02

30 Oct '02

Hi again all, The URL I gave in the announcement was wrong; it should have read: http://www.zygoat.ca/products/doggiebox/download.php Sorry about that, it's late... -ben -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca

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Re: Doggiebox Memory leak?
by Ben Kennedy 30 Oct '02

30 Oct '02

Thanks to all who responded re the memory leak, There were two aspects that I have been able to track down: a) some major leaking in DB that was my fault, and fixed in 1A3; b) some leaking whenever images based on PDFs are drawn, apparently a bug in AppKit (i.e. apple's fault) that's been around for awhile. -b -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca

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