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New kit posted (70s Ludwig)
by Ben Kennedy 18 May '04

18 May '04

Hey all, David Holloway (a new DB user) has just uploaded a great sounding new kit file, now in the library: Vintage 70s Ludwig, w/ Zildjian Z's all around. It's got some great "pen stroke" icons in there too. Check it out. -ben -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca

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Non-member postings and spam
by Ben Kennedy 17 May '04

17 May '04

Hey folks, I've made a small change to the list server configuration that shouldn't affect anybody but I thought I would let you know. In the past, any postings to the list from a non-member (i.e. someone who wasn't themselves already subscribed to the list) would be held, and I would get a notice. I would then be able to either let the posting go through, or deny it. Most of the time, such non-member postings are the result of spam bots. On occasion, however, a couple of you have posted from an e-mail address other than the one you are subscribed under. In those cases I've approved the postings since I recognize who you are and obviously it's legitimate. I'm changing this, however, so that all non-member postings will be denied right away. The reason is that in the last couple of days, the amount of spam seems to have increased a bunch so I am being flooded regularly with approval messages for spam and it's getting irksome to deal with. The upshot of this: If you post to the list and your message comes back rejected, check that you are sending it from the right account (and if you think you are, send me a message and I'll sort it out.) -ben -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca

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Fwd: [Doggiebox] Wish List
by Bal 11 May '04

11 May '04

>> BTW, complete non-sequitur: What are DBing guitarists using for home >> recording? Hi Carl, I almost bought that marshall studio 15 second hand, but unfortunately I was too late. I understand you're an loyal user of the Studio 15 (nice website, Carl, and some nice sound clips) As for the amp, I've got a Fender Princeton (12W) with the same 6V6 tubes (350 $, 2nd hand); Fender Twin (400 $, 2nd hand) Guitars : 'a few' . For ex. fender tele '52 reissue (1.075 Euro, new); Japanese Strat (650 €, new); an old hagström Futurama III (for free) and a 'brandnew' second hand LP standard (1300 €), Accoustic: Seagull (360 €, new) Bass: a very old (mid 60's) Framus Star Bass (10 €, plays & sounds great though, used it on 'settle down'); Fender Precision (250 €, 2nd hand) A few of stompboxes... Microphones : a few, but the AKG 424 B-ULS stands out ( +/- 900 €, new) Recording Hardware : Powerbook G4; Motu 828mkII(1.090 €); TC electronics Triple C (300 € I think, New) Software : Doggiebox (huh!) & AudioDesk (came with the Motu 828mkII) I do the mixing through my normal stereo,but I have to admid I bought a very nice pair of speakers from a friend(Audio Exklusiv, Suisse): the difference with my old speakers (JVC) is amazing! But I guess real studio speakers are still the best. So for now I do a mix on my stereospeakers, then through the radio in the kitchen and through 2 different headphones. And of course : the final testdrive on my car's stereo. Mathieu www.thirdson.tk Begin forwarded message: > From: Mike Carlyle <mcarlyle(a)charter.net> > Date: 28 april 2004 01:57:49 GMT+02:00 > To: Carl Edlund Anderson <cea(a)carlaz.com> > Cc: Doggiebox <doggiebox(a)lists.zygoat.ca> > Subject: Re: [Doggiebox] Wish List > > > On Tuesday, April 27, 2004, at 06:30 AM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > >> BTW, complete non-sequitur: What are DBing guitarists using for home >> recording? > > I'm using a whole bunch of different things but, to answer the > question from a guitar amp point of view, I'd wholeheartedly recommend > anyone looking to check out a Tech 21 Trademark 10. It's what I used > to do the little ditty on the Doggiebox website that became one of the > "demo songs". The TM 10 has SansAmp direct box technology built in, > it's all analog, no computer chips inside (no tubes either). > > It's affordable. They're usually available on ebay for less than 200 > bucks. I got mine in mint condition for 180 (ebay). In addition to > that, I will always keep my Marshall Studio 15 alive and kickin' so > that I can mic it when I want that really authentic, woody, open, > guitar sound. This amp can do a better clean than a Fender, while > still retaining the Plexi era, rippin' Marshall sound that has become > a classic. This is a 15 watt single channel tube amp with a 12" > Celestion. > > Oh, and I have a Fender Blues Jr. as well. I don't record with it much > though. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Zygoat Doggiebox discussion list - <http://www.doggiebox.com> > To unsubscribe, view archives or change your options: > <http://lists.zygoat.ca/mailman/listinfo/doggiebox> >

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Apple Design Awards
by Ben Kennedy 10 May '04

10 May '04

Hey folks, Apple holds a competition each year called the Design Awards where developers can enter their products for judging in a variety of categories. <http://designawards.apple.com/> I want to submit an entry for Doggiebox (the deadline is a week from today). In doing so, I have to answer a bunch of questions about it, and it occurred to me that some of you might have suggestions on what to say that I haven't thought of. In particular here are 3 questions I have to write some text for: >Briefly state the outstanding design features of your contest entry. (For >example: what's unique? what's super cool? what is particularly noteworthy?)* > >Describe your contest entry's target users (i.e. who uses your product, >what is their occupation, work environment, workflow, etc.)* > >Explain what you have done to make your contest entry better on Mac OS X >when compared with it's counterparts or competition on other platforms.* In case anyone has any great lines that I could work in to any of these, feel free to drop em to me off-list. :) -ben -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca

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RE: how to change beat length
by blhudge 09 May '04

09 May '04

--- blhudge <blhudge(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 17:05:44 -0700 (PDT) > From: blhudge <blhudge(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: how to change beat length > To: doggiebox(a)lists.zygoat.ca > > Great program! I only have the demo so far but I'll > be > buying it soon. Depending on how well I learn to use > it that is. > > I just can't figure how to change the length of the > beats. I've been through the manual and read the > other > mailinglist questions. RTFM me if you must but I'm a > guitarist that knows a little about drums and this > is > probably a simple one that I just may be overlooking > how to do this in the software. > > Thanks > blhudge > >> >>Mike Carlyle mcarlyle at charter.net >>Sat May 8 20:17:28 EDT 2004 >>I'm wondering what you mean by "beat length"? I'm >>thinking you are referring to the length of the >>pattern you can build in one bar after selecting the >>"insert bar" menu item. >>You can expand the bar, but it's really not making it >>longer; it's only "zooming in" to allow you to place >>more drum sounds in a smaller space than you can see >>when fully "zoomed out". You can also change the speed >>of the bar, but I don't think that's what you mean. >>Something that became evident to me pretty quickly was >>that sometimes the pattern you hear in your head must >>actually fill more than just one >>bar. Download some of the songs from the doggiebox >>site and dissect them. Sometimes the best way to learn >>is by copying what others have done. ---------------------------------- --- blhudge <blhudge(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Thanks for the nudge Mike. >You can expand the bar, but it's really not making it >>longer; it's only "zooming in" to allow you to place >>more drum sounds in a smaller space than you can see >>when fully "zoomed out". After learning the expand and collapse keyboard shortcuts I realize I can zoom in/out farther than I realized by just using the menu expand and collapse. I had tried that before but assumed I could only zoom in and out once. I like how it's the same zoom keyboard combo as Photoshops. As I sayed before, it's something simple I've overlooked. >sometimes the pattern you hear in your head must >actually fill more than just one bar. yes I've been experience that too. Thanks again blhudge - Barry __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover

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how to change beat length
by blhudge 09 May '04

09 May '04

Great program! I only have the demo so far but I'll be buying it soon. Depending on how well I learn to use it that is. I just can't figure how to change the length of the beats. I've been through the manual and read the other mailinglist questions. RTFM me if you must but I'm a guitarist that knows a little about drums and this is probably a simple one that I just may be overlooking how to do this in the software. Thanks blhudge __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover

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New kit - the Behan Box
by Ben Kennedy 03 May '04

03 May '04

Hey all, Thanks to Mike, the Behan Box kit is now up for download in the library! Here is how Mike describes it: >Sometimes simpler really is better. I recorded the sounds in this kit >using one dynamic mic setup about 8 feet behind the throne. I recorded >to tape on my Tascam 424, then dumped the sounds into my Mac for >further processing. The kit itself is a no-name beater that my friend >Tom Behan let me borrow indefinitely, hence the name Behan Box. > >I diced up the sounds and sort of "mastered" them individually with >Cubase, applying eq and maximizer plug ins as needed. I haven't spent >too much time adjusting levels within the kit, but they seem pretty >solid. I didn't apply any time based effects like reverb. I prefer >dbkits that are dry, which allows individuals to slather on their own >reverb during the process. > >This has a kind of "live" sound. I'd hesitate to call it "lo-fi" since >it has connotations I'd rather avoid, but, technically, it is lo-fi. >I'll hope you post it and that someone besides me can make use of it. -ben -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca

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Recording Setups & the Best Bang for Your Buck
by The Reverend 02 May '04

02 May '04

>Well, I find that I had more money to spend on kit when I was a >single-income single person than a single-income married person whose >partner is taking expensive university courses ;) Ahh, yes- a common medical condition- a constriction of the finger that causes a shrinkage of the wallet and genitals.... *********************************** -- The Reverend Rat -- Rock and roll like it still matters. http://www.revrat.com ***********************************

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Upcoming Kits
by The Reverend 29 Apr '04

29 Apr '04

Just out of curiosity, are any of you working on new drum kits to upload? I keep bugging my brother-in-law (the one I did the djembe kit with) to come over with some of his other drums. He has hundreds of them, and has actually reached the stage where he writes them off on his taxes. It's a sickness, it really is... Anyway, being the enabler that I am, in the planning stage right now are: -A full Melenke kit- three djembes and three dunnuns. -A kit based on Carl's jazz kit -A conga set (he has 6) -A "misc percussion" set of woodblocks, cowbells, boomwhackers, rain stick, and whatever else we have lying around. I'd love to see a latin percussion kit and a symphony kit with timpanis and such... *********************************** -- The Reverend Rat -- Rock and roll like it still matters. http://www.revrat.com ***********************************

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Recording Setups & the Best Bang for Your Buck
by The Reverend 28 Apr '04

28 Apr '04

>BTW, complete non-sequitur: What are DBing guitarists using for home recording? (-Carl Edlund Anderson) Good question. I'd like to know what other people are using, too. This is my setup- I'm including prices for some things, just to show that you can have a great system without paying $30,000 for a bunch of DigiDesign stuff. Computers: 733 G4 tower with 1Gb Ram, 100Gb (a 60 & a 40) HD 677 G4 PowerBook with 384Mb / 30Gb HD 120Gb Lacie external firewire HD Input / Output: M-Audio Firewire 410: 6 in/10 out. A great box for around $400. Software: BIAS Deck: ($400 total- upgraded from the $99 Deck LE) Multitracker with 64 playback & 999 virtual tracks, VST, 5.1 surround mixing, and a buttload of other features. BIAS Peak LE: (included w/ full version of Deck) A waveform editor with VST and AU support. DoggieBox: Our favorite drum machine :-) Myriad Melody Assistant: Composition software with MIDI and a host of other features. At under $20, it has the same capabilities of programs retailing for $300-$700. Apple GarageBand: Love it! Great for experimenting with arrangements. Various software filling supporting roles: SimpleSynth, MidiKeys, Apple Soundtrack Loop Utility, Dent Du Midi, Audio Hijack, and iTunes. Microphones: 2 Oktava MK-310 Condensers ($699 list, Guitar Center was selling a truckload for $99 each) 2 Shure SM-57 1 Shure SM-58 1 old Fender mic that works great with my particular voice. Other Stuff: A Fender Roadhouse Strat, Samick bass, cheap Casio keyboard I keep meaning to replace, and a big horkin' pile of effects pedals, cheaper guitars, miscellaneous junk, cables, other instruments and whatnot. Also, a PowerBook 5300 that I stuck into my pedal board to keep my sheet music handy. -Mike *********************************** -- The Reverend Rat -- Rock and roll like it still matters. http://www.revrat.com ***********************************

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1C2: initial MIDI support
by Ben Kennedy 27 Apr '04

27 Apr '04

Hey all, A new beta build with initial MIDI support is now up for your perusal! Grab it at <http://www.doggiebox.com/distribution/Doggiebox-1C2.zip> Here are the release notes (also included in the download), to whet your whistle. --------------------------------------- Notes for 1C2 (26 April 2004): This build is Doggiebox's first emergence with the beginnings of MIDI support. If you have MIDI devices that you use in your music-making, this is for you. Over the coming weeks we would like to solicit usability, performance and functionality feedback from anybody who uses MIDI in a real-world situation. As there is a huge range of hardware and software (e.g. keyboards, drum machines, sequencers, etc.) which support MIDI, your feedback -- particularly as Doggiebox relates to the stuff you are using -- will be immensely valuable in crafting MIDI support in Doggiebox. THEORY BEHIND MIDI OPERATION The goal with this series is to equip Doggiebox to provide real-time input and playback with any MIDI-compliant software and hardware devices. In this build, it is possible to configure MIDI events that correspond to drums in Doggiebox drum kit files, and then play back Doggiebox songs to MIDI devices instead of (or in addition to) your computer speakers. If you have outboard MIDI hardware, you should first set it up according to the manufacturer's instructions and ensure that it is configured and available in the Apple Audio MIDI Setup utility (found in your / Applications/Utilities folder). Alternatively, various MIDI-compliant software will register itself with the system automatically with little or no setup required. CHANGES TO THE USER INTERFACE Here's what's new in the UI since Doggiebox 1.1.1 as it relates to MIDI: • In the Preferences, there are pop-up buttons with which to choose the MIDI source and destination devices. The available choices will reflect devices as configured in the Apple Audio Midi Setup tool, as well as any virtual endpoints belonging to applications that are running. Choose a source for "MIDI in from" (Doggiebox will listen to this device), and a target for "MIDI out to" (Doggiebox will play back through this device). • In the drum kit document window, there is a new table column labeled "MIDI" and a corresponding input field near the bottom of the window. This field indicates what MIDI "note on" message is sent when the corresponding drum plays back, as well as what is listened for when selecting instruments during editing. To set the MIDI message for a drum, click on the "MIDI message" field at the bottom of the window and then send the desired event (e.g., press a key on your keyboard or drum machine). To dissociate any MIDI message from the instrument, click "none". To hear the event, click "test" to play it on the chosen output device. • In the song document window, there are two new checkboxes labeled "Play audio" and "Play MIDI". These determine whether normal audio playback (with Doggiebox drum kit sounds) and/or outbound MIDI are enabled, respectively. ERRATA AND NOTES • Currently, only "note on" events are sent over MIDI. This will cause some sounds, such as crash cymbals and open hi-hats, to sound strange (e.g. with inappropriately long decay) depending on your playback device. This will be fixed shortly, with accompanying "note off" events happening where they should. • Currently, all MIDI playback is sent at full velocity (as defined in the drum kit) regardless of the "master volume" slider in the song editor. This will be fixed shortly. • MIDI input is not currently observed in the song editor (e.g. for switching instruments or real-time input). This will be implemented eventually. • The included update to Ben's Premier Kit has MIDI messages configured for most instruments which correspond to the General MIDI channel 10 drum patch. Developmental testing has been done using SimpleSynth as a virtual playback device, available from <http://pete.yandell.com/software/>. --------------------------------------- Please post any impressions, remarks, compatibility notes, suggestions and so on to the list or to me. So far, I have not been able to work with any physical outboard gear; instead I have been using a combination of software synths for I/O. So feedback from those of you with actual equipment will be interesting! Thanks, and enjoy, -ben -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca

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Re: [Doggiebox] Wish List
by Ben Kennedy 26 Apr '04

26 Apr '04

On 20 4 2004 at 8:43 am -0400, mcarlyle(a)charter.net wrote: >It wouldn't matter. Once the export is done, you've got individual >instrument tracks, period. It doesn't matter where they were originally born. True, if you want every single instrument on its own track. I guess I was thinking that you may also wish to configure subgroups, e.g. cymbals into a stereo pair, toms as another pair, then snare and kick. Is there a demand for this? If so, would it be sufficient to assign such groupings within the drum kit config? I presume so. -ben -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca

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MIDI file availability
by Dan Costello 22 Apr '04

22 Apr '04

> Alas, I haven't actually got any MIDI stuff to use to see how it works > in practice :P > > Cheers, > Carl > Hey Carl-- Dan Costello from Boise. Thought I might try to help the MIDI cause. What's funny about this current thread is that for a long time I thought DoggieBox itself must somehow be built upon MIDI principles. Silly me. For practice MIDI bits: A search on the web will yield plenty of MIDI files to work with, and freeware/shareware MIDI editors exist as well. The free version of ProTools (in OS 9... yawn) I'm using has a great visual MIDI editing capability-- you can actually SEE all the MIDI messages as little specks on the screen. I'm pretty sure your 1680 will show you similar things on its little LCD screen, but I'm not positive-- one of the studio guys I work with here in town used to have one, but I think I learned more about its MIDI capabilities in one afternoon of flipping through the manual than he did the whole time he owned it. Might've been more work to learn than it was worth, but most of the smaller digital workstations are really handcuffed for effectiveness without harnessing MIDI. Here's a link to a file I recently downloaded that I need to rehearse for a gig I have coming up later this summer... it has a good variety of instruments in it, but also must have some fairly detailed tempo info in it as well, as the ritards, a tempos, and fermatas are very smooth in playback (through a basic QuickTime player). Might be a good one to dissect and study. http://www.aria-database.com/sounds/midi/gianni2_omio.mid Also, if you're into the band Guster, they have a great website with all kinds of screwy audio files from live shows, other bands covering their songs, them covering other people's songs... and a handful of MIDI files! (last time I was there, anyway.) Weird, but cool. Might be a bit more interesting than Puccini. http://media.guster.net/

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another request
by Erik Contzius 22 Apr '04

22 Apr '04

I'd love to see pre-programmed rhythms (funk, march, polka) provided either in external files or something within the program. for us non-drummers, I want to start with a rhythm and go from there. libraries of doggie box stuff is sparse. Help us non drummers!!! erik Cantor Erik L. F. Contzius New Rochelle, NY http://tinr.org/ http://rozhinke.org/

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Wish List
by The Reverend 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

For what it's worth, here are my top suggestions for upcoming versions. Some are easy, some are way to complicated to actually do, but hey- it's food for thought... 1) Export of each drum into separate tracks. 2) Individual volume sliders for each drum that would allow you to mix the kit for playback or export. 3) MIDI support. I'd love to be able to use a MIDI controller to program, or even better, to start/stop and switch between sections in a live environment. 4) A duplicate command in the kit editor. 5) More than 5 available drum lines- I'd love to see the number of available rows as a preference or as part of the kit editor. 6) A "publish" button in the kit editor that would upload the kit to the library. 7) An icon editor in the kit editor. ********************************************** ^_^ -- The Reverend Rat -- (oo) Rock and roll like it still matters. \ / >V< http://www.revrat.com **********************************************

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Oooh! Oooh! Thought of another one!
by The Reverend 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

Ahem... AU support. *********************************** -- The Reverend Rat -- Rock and roll like it still matters. http://www.revrat.com ***********************************

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wish list
by Phillip Lea 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

>>7) An icon editor in the kit editor. >With what kind of facilities? I don't see much point in >trying to >duplicate a paint program inside Doggiebox. What kind of >things >would be >better achieved within the kit editor that could not be >done as a >copy-n- >paste out of Photoshop or somesuch? An icon editor might be overkill, but including a handful of (easily accessed) attractive icons would make DB seem more finished and professional. I think this would improve the perceived value of the program. Phillip -- _____________________________________________________________ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. >From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze

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track export
by Tor Lillegraven 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

this is what would work wonders for me: * putting in an additonal option in the "export sections..." menu option that would allow you to select ANY, SOME or ALL of the 5 (count them, five) individual kit-pieces for export. Hmmmm... did that make sense? Ok - here is an example: lets say I have made 5 bars of music -- the chorus of a song. It would be great to be able to go into "export sections...", and select, lets say, TWO of the kit-pieces (hihat and snare, or bassdrum and cymbals, or any other combination) and export only 5 bars of those two pieces. Similarily, you could have a complete song over 90 bars, and export ONLY the complete snare track from that song. The logical layout of Doggiebox is such that this could be as easy as just selecting one or several of the five "lines" of kit-pieces for export. For example -- you could just choose to export the "top line" (usually the cymbals), or the "bottom line", (usually the bass drum.) Doing it this way would provide a simple means of organizing your export. Another option would obviously be to just have the option of exporting "all the snare rimshots in this song".type of deal, but I think that be a bit more cumbersome. What if I have a song where every other snare hit is a rimshot? Tor P.S: Here is a track I have made recently using Doggiebox: http://www.mementor.net/lyd/eye_to_eye.mp3 The next step for me would separating each of the kit-pieces, giving the Bassdrum a little extra wooompf, the snare a little distortion, the hihat a little flanger, cymbals lots of reverb and so forth. For this I need the seperate export options.... otherwise its just too much of a hassle here is another one: http://www.mementor.net/lyd/lost_love.mp3 the drums are a little high on this one -- a common mistake amongst noob-drummers like myself, I think :-) ***************************************************************** Denne fotnoten bekrefter at denne e-postmeldingen ble skannet av MailSweeper og funnet fri for virus. ***************************************************************** This footnote confirms that this email message has been swept by MailSweeper for the presence of computer viruses. *****************************************************************

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DB recording posted
by Carl Edlund Anderson 20 Apr '04

20 Apr '04

I've had a couple of "drums only" Doggiebox song tracks sitting on my web site for a while, waiting for me to add guitars and stuff. Well having not quite managed to get my marginally more complex piece ready before my lady wife returned from a research trip abroad and wanted to reclaim usage of the office/studio/bedroom/computer again ;) I hastily slapped guitars and bass on the mindnumbingly simple piece I was working on instead, just so I could claim to myself to have done something ... anything :) So an MP3 of this track, "Afterburner", with drums by Doggiebox is on my web site: <http://www.carlaz.com/music/current.html>. The .dbsong is there too. The track as it stands is just a sludgey riff-fest (plug-in and go), completely unmixed or anything (I made the MP3 by sending the stereo monitor mix back to my old G3, which has a line-in, and recording it in Peak :) I did record a version with hastily written, hastily recorded vocals, but it was so awful decided to revisit vocals at some point in the indeterminate future :) But it's still the furtherest I've gotten with any musical project (other than the dodgy cover band with the dudes from work, which doesn't count :) for a hell of a long time, so I'm determined to be proud of its progress :) Here's a little more about the DB aspects: The track starts with some woodblock tapping that isn't part of the song _per_se_ but is there so that I can (try to) keep time with the guitar before the proper drums come in; I would mix the woodblocks out eventually. The same woodblock tapping returns later in the piece where there's another _sans_drums_ bit. This is my standard operating procedure to line-up the different instruments. I could have probably livened up the drums with some small tempo changes here and there--speeding up towards the end of the instrumental bit, for example--but hey, I was working fast. Ideally, I should go back and liven up the ride cymbal part, which is kinda ching-ching-ching-ching, with at least some different velocity hits--but swapping out the drum track and lineing up a new one with the existing recording is a pain in the ass :) I do like some of the fast snare fills, though. Some of them work quite well, I thought. Though if DB ever got a feature to tweak particular elements of the kit ahead or behind the beat, it would probably have been handy to set the rhythm keeping element of the snare (or ride) a bit behind the beat, to give it a bit more "groove". If we ever get that and MIDI master/slaving as DB features, I'll definitely go back at recut the drums :) Oh, the .dbsong file is "old style". I haven't converted it to the new pattern-pallete approach yet! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/

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108 drum samples
by Sion Morris 14 Apr '04

14 Apr '04

Hi Karl Whoops - looks like the page is no longer there. I got the link from the following post: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=775642#post775642 in the meantime you can download the ones (39mb) I have from: http://82.42.122.13/~sion/Files/mp3/Cedric_samples.sit From what I remember this chap Cedric and his mate recorded the drum samples in order to sequence them together for a song they were working on for some kind of competition. Guess they didn't win! Cheers Sion

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108 drum samples
by Sion Morris 13 Apr '04

13 Apr '04

Don't know if anyone has come across this page before, but it sure looks like it has ideal doggiebox drum kit potential: http://www.cedrik.com/ebm/ cheers Sion

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Something I did with the Hemberger kit
by Mike Carlyle 11 Apr '04

11 Apr '04

I really like the sound of this kit. I usually use my nskit, but this Hemberger snare sound is really big. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/7/mikecarlylesinstrumentaldemosmusic.htm There's only one song on the link above. I have another area with more complete songs. They don't use Hemberger, though.

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1.1.1 (bug fix and localization)
by Ben Kennedy 05 Apr '04

05 Apr '04

Hey all, Doggiebox 1.1.1 is now available for download at <http:// www.doggiebox.com/download.php>. Here's what's new: • Updated the Italian localization, thanks to Vella Bruno. • Fixed some bugs which caused it to be impossible to change tempo or time signature under some circumstances. • Added support for AVR sound file format. -ben -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca

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(no subject)
by Ian Bridges 04 Apr '04

04 Apr '04

George wrote > anyone have some basic advice on how to put fills together? any links > would be helpful. I found the following links to be helpful - I didn't know much about building good drum tracks, but got heaps of help from these: http://drumbum.com/ http://colomar.com/Shavano/midi.html http://216.103.111.115/perl/drums/index.cgi Hope it helps Ian B

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ns_kit6/7
by Carl Edlund Anderson 02 Apr '04

02 Apr '04

I noticed that the new version of ns_kit, version 7, is now available for download. And I grabbed it :) but was wondering if any of you still have the WAV samples from the previous ns_kit6 lying around? I used to have them, but I think I lost them in a disk crash some weeks back! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/

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