I also tend to use DB for quickie demos, but I have also gone all the way to do full-fledged productions with it. And I`m all for being able to export seperate drum parts -- it would really make a huge difference for me.
I find that Doggiebox is a great songwriting tool, but the output isn`t always up to par. A little tweaking in ProTools or Logic can make a HUGE difference. Even a carefully mic`d live performance could do with a litte compression or reverb :)
I really hope this is a forthcomming feature on DB -- its just such a logical step to take the application to the next level. Cause who needs those drunk, smelly drummers anyways? ;)
Tor
Corey Knafelz corey.knafelz@gmail.com 04/12/05 2:10 >>>
10-4.
I use DB for quick demos, and it's great for that, so I guess I was splitting hairs in any case.
On Apr 11, 2005, at 4:57 PM, Mike Carlyle wrote:
We've discussed this a few times. I have exported individual sounds in > the past, but this requires a cumbersome workaround. Quite frankly, I'd rather put the time into the performance or arrangement aspect of the song.
My philosophy is that the drums as one cohesive unit are a bit closer to a carefully mic'd live performance recorded in the good old days before 24 track studios were everywhere. I'm aware I'm only justifying > a shortcut, but this works for me.
What David had been asking about was the export and treatment of individual sounds from his kit, followed by the re-import into my version of his kit. That's what I took him to mean, at least.
On Apr 11, 2005, at 7:46 PM, Corey Knafelz wrote:
On Apr 11, 2005, at 3:56 PM, Mike Carlyle wrote:
If I treat individual sounds (a great idea, just not one I've had time for yet) I'll be sure to share.
I think it would be incredibly useful to export instruments (drums, cymbals, etc.) as individual files. I almost always apply some type of processing (eq, compression, etc.) to the files when I import them >> into ProTools. It would be super hot to apply different parameters of >> processing to the instruments as if they were recorded live as separate tracks.
Sorry if this has been mentioned before. Sometimes I only quickly glance at the list.
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On 12/04/2005 11:05, Tor Lillegraven wrote:
I also tend to use DB for quickie demos, but I have also gone all the way to do full-fledged productions with it. And I`m all for being able to export seperate drum parts -- it would really make a huge difference for me.
I haven't gone the separate drum tracks route (yet), and I kinda dig the "mic the virtual kit" approach, but I definitely see the utility of being able to turn given drums on or off for playback. I could easily see some check boxes next to drum sounds (or groups of drum sounds) in the kit window when editing so you could "mute" given things on playback.
Ultimately, I think it would be cool to see DB have the ability to output multichannel sound so you could run, say, multi-channel Firewire audio out of your Mac, through your multi-channel audio interface, whence you split out different regular audio cables to run to the mixer/board/whatever just as if they were coming from individual drum mics. But that's probably more complicated to sort out than simply muting given drums on or off for playback!
Cheers, Carl
ps - I use a woodblock sound to provide a click track to help me play in time on recordings during sections without drums, and I then go back to overdub a version of the dbsong from which I've erased the woodblock clicks -- but that's as much as I've done with turning drums on or off the hard way!
pps - Oh, I did finally get around to slaving DB to my recording deck (instead of vice versa) using MIDI/MMC, and it works *great*. I can swap drum tracks in and out from under other instruments now without any trouble syncing things up. Fab :)
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