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Can I register the latest version with my original key ?
by marco north 15 Feb '21

15 Feb '21

I bought a single user licence for Doggiebox way back in 2011 - can I use the latest build with my original key/registration # or do I have to buy it all over gain? thank you! Marco

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2.1 beta for Catalina, Big Sur, and M1 Macs!
by Ben Kennedy 10 Feb '21

10 Feb '21

Hello friends! (Er, is anyone still here?...) A lot of time has ambled by since the last release of Doggiebox back in August 2012. One hundred months, in fact. Yikes! And as you well know, with last year's release of MacOS 10.15 Catalina and its lack of support for 32-bit apps, Doggiebox stopped working altogether on recent Macs. Thanks in part to the pandemic, throughout this spring and fall I've finally been able to spend enough time bringing Doggiebox back up to speed -- to make the necessary and long-overdue changes to make it 64-bit and work with the latest SDKs and current Mac developer tools. (With a legacy codebase dating back to 2002, and many MacOS updates over this span, there was a lot more to this than one might guess.) As such, is with great pleasure that I can announce a shiny new beta! Get it here: http://www.doggiebox.com/distribution/Doggiebox-1J01.zip Notable changes since version 2.0.2: - Now a 64-bit Universal build, supporting MacOS 10.15 and 11.0 on Intel and M1 Macs. (The minimum required system is now MacOS 10.9.) - Numerous internal changes to support modern architecture and updated APIs. - Fixed bug where trying to Revert in the drum kit editor would crash. - Fixed bug where drum kit palette would not be shown until a song document is opened (i.e. absent for a drum kit document). - A new preference setting “Include pre-release (development) versions” will fetch such builds when checking for updates. Known issues in this build: - You may be prompted to locate drum kits when opening existing songs. - Lack of dark mode support and other minor visual anomalies. On account of some of the plumbing changes, there might well be a number of other things that are broken. I would appreciate your feedback in identifying any problems or weirdness so that I can get it fixed. My intent is to clean up the remaining rough edges and issue an official release of Doggiebox 2.1 within the next couple of weeks. My heartfelt thanks to all you loyal Doggiebox enthusiasts for your involvement over all these years. While the Dog may have been snoozing (!), I hope there remains a lot more life in him yet. Arf arf! -ben

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Doggie Box Beta
by David Sampson 21 Dec '20

21 Dec '20

Really!! Glad to hear about the update. I had to go back to 2006 for my registration. When that didn’t work, I checked the page and realized there was a 2.0 version. So I found my registration from that (2014). Got everything working! I loaded up some songs that I created in 2006, and DB played them just fine. I’m really glad this has new life. DB is my favorite program when I have to transcribe drums. I HATE transcribing drums, but DB makes the process much easier than using a DAW or some other application. Welcome back puppy dog! Dave

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Re: [Doggiebox] Status?
by Rusty White 28 Sep '19

28 Sep '19

I agree with the staff notation feature. It is unique best I can tell. Its use is a matter of personal preference as far as drawing notes versus tapping out your pattern. I find tapping provides me with a more creative work flow than dropping notes visually. You can draw beats direct into Logic midi editor but I believe it is best to use a pad where you can add some velocity (hard tap vs soft) information that would be more tedious if you were to simply drop notes into the midi editor since drawing notes means they all have the same "feel" until you edit their parameters (velocity/duration). As for changing time signatures I can't say. Logic has so much to offer beyond my current abilities. I do know you can stretch the time. Its called Flex time. On September 27, 2019 at 12:58 PM, Thomas Davis <landsalmon(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi Rusty, I’m just now starting to work with Logic Pro to make rhythm tracks. My favorite thing about DB was the interface: the musical staff notation as a starting point to make beats visually rather than starting with a sequencer and then transitioning to midi interface to further edit. Have you made beats directly in Logic’s midi editor? Can you change time signatures for specific sections of a song (eg most of the song is in 4/4 but you want one measure in 3/4)? On Sep 27, 2019, at 9:45 AM, Rusty White <roojam(a)me.com> wrote: Logic Pro X, which obviously needs a modern OS like Sierra or High Sierra,... to run, has a fantastic drummer simulation. I either use the sim to craft my drum parts, or I create parts on a workstation pad and use Logic's drum kit sound patches to program and build my own beats. After quantizing my custom parts I'll either use them alone or build a final drum track that is composed of a combination of these parts and the Logic Drummer simulator track. If working with your own custom pad hits, these can be editing inside the Logic midi editor window to a very high degree. The added benefit to doing it this way is the vast library of custom drum kits that you can choose from to tailor your tones. I'm not knocking Doggiebox, but the affordable options on the market today have evolved so far beyond DB that its difficult to justify sticking with the limitations of DB. On September 25, 2019 at 12:50 AM, Carl Freire <cpflists(a)carlfreire.com> wrote: I have a 2009 MacBook that I kept around to run an ancient version of Quicken on Snow Leopard (and also Windows XP via Bootcamp so I can play the original Warcraft when the mood strikes. :-) ). I'm now also using that computer to run Doggiebox. I also have both GarageBand and Logic Pro on my primary computer. You can do a lot with the drum sims on both of those, but, yeah, nothing beats the freedom that Doggiebox allows you to vary patterns. I did a little looking around once, but I couldn't really find anything comparable to DB for Windows, either. I haven't looked in a long time, though. Anybody know of anything? On 9/25/19 6:28 AM, Thomas Davis wrote: Whats up Dbox folks! I tried downloading doggiebox today on my Mac running High Sierra 10.13.6 and alas it doesn't seem to work. I might need to dig out the old mac just for the sake of using doggiebox. I'm assuming there aren't any planned updates, so I'm curious to know what you guys are using these days instead? I have garageband, Logic Pro, and an Akai sequencer but nothing beats the interface of doggiebox's musical notation-style... On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 5:22 PM Larry Felker LAST_NAME <laf6354(a)comcast.net> wrote: I'm still using and enjoying Doggiebox. I agree, it seems to have stalled out but I've never had trouble using it with Garage Band. I just export it to my desktop and drag it into Garage Band! I'll program a whole song, drums first, put it in GB and away I go! I assume Logic would be just as easy. I've never tried creating my own kit, but may at some point. I don't think I'll ever change unless I see something as easy to use. On October 11, 2018 at 6:49 AM Carl Edlund Anderson <cea(a)carlaz.com mailto:cea@carlaz.com > wrote: I see Ben out there on Facebook, occasionally, but I think you’re right: good ol’ Doggiebox is not a particular priority these days. I think that’s been true for some time, and I’ve been looking for other solutions for a good while now, sensing that that DB’s days were numbered. DB’s ability to customize your own kits and samples, perform fairly detailed editing, and output the audio was pretty amazing, certainly when Ben first brought it out. I think it didn’t take off like it might otherwise have done because, just as it was coming out, everything was transitioning over to DAWs and everything had to be a plug-in as well as (if at all) a standalone app. It will probably be a good while before I go over to Mojave (since I don’t need to break all my audio stuff just yet!), but I suppose when I do that will be farewell to good old Doggiebox! <sniff!> Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson https://soundcloud.com/carledlundanderson/ < https://soundcloud.com/carledlundanderson/> https://carledlundanderson.bandcamp.com/ < https://carledlundanderson.bandcamp.com/> http://www.carlaz.com/music.html <http://www.carlaz.com/music.html> > On 01 Oct 2018, at 07:15, Carl Freire < cpflists(a)carlfreire.com mailto:cpflists@carlfreire.com > wrote: Hi, anyone who might still be out there-- I believe I posed a similar question about a year ago, but is anyone in touch with Ben? I think some of us were already hitting the end of the road with Doggiebox (I still got it to work on High Sierra, though YMMV), but I vaguely recall that with Mojave if a certain "x" change wasn't done then various programs were going to fall by the wayside--Doggiebox among them. We come not to mourn Doggiebox but rather to praise it . . . Well, unless something is in the works, damn good run while it lasted and I hope that Ben is doing well, live long and prosper, etc. (Honestly, mostly at this point I'm just wondering if I should finally unsubscribe from this list . . .). Cheers, Carl (not that Carl but the other one ;-) ) --------------------------------------------- Zygoat Doggiebox discussion list - <http://www.doggiebox.com> To unsubscribe, view archives or change your options: <http://lists.zygoat.ca/mailman/listinfo/doggiebox> --------------------------------------------- Zygoat Doggiebox discussion list - <http://www.doggiebox.com> To unsubscribe, view archives or change your options: <http://lists.zygoat.ca/mailman/listinfo/doggiebox> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Zygoat Doggiebox discussion list - <http://www.doggiebox.com> To unsubscribe, view archives or change your options: <http://lists.zygoat.ca/mailman/listinfo/doggiebox> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Zygoat Doggiebox discussion list - <http://www.doggiebox.com> To unsubscribe, view archives or change your options: <http://lists.zygoat.ca/mailman/listinfo/doggiebox> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Zygoat Doggiebox discussion list - <http://www.doggiebox.com> To unsubscribe, view archives or change your options: <http://lists.zygoat.ca/mailman/listinfo/doggiebox>

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Re: [Doggiebox] Status?
by Rusty White 27 Sep '19

27 Sep '19

Logic Pro X, which obviously needs a modern OS like Sierra or High Sierra,... to run, has a fantastic drummer simulation. I either use the sim to craft my drum parts, or I create parts on a workstation pad and use Logic's drum kit sound patches to program and build my own beats. After quantizing my custom parts I'll either use them alone or build a final drum track that is composed of a combination of these parts and the Logic Drummer simulator track. If working with your own custom pad hits, these can be editing inside the Logic midi editor window to a very high degree. The added benefit to doing it this way is the vast library of custom drum kits that you can choose from to tailor your tones. I'm not knocking Doggiebox, but the affordable options on the market today have evolved so far beyond DB that its difficult to justify sticking with the limitations of DB. On September 25, 2019 at 12:50 AM, Carl Freire <cpflists(a)carlfreire.com> wrote: I have a 2009 MacBook that I kept around to run an ancient version of Quicken on Snow Leopard (and also Windows XP via Bootcamp so I can play the original Warcraft when the mood strikes. :-) ). I'm now also using that computer to run Doggiebox. I also have both GarageBand and Logic Pro on my primary computer. You can do a lot with the drum sims on both of those, but, yeah, nothing beats the freedom that Doggiebox allows you to vary patterns. I did a little looking around once, but I couldn't really find anything comparable to DB for Windows, either. I haven't looked in a long time, though. Anybody know of anything? On 9/25/19 6:28 AM, Thomas Davis wrote: Whats up Dbox folks! I tried downloading doggiebox today on my Mac running High Sierra 10.13.6 and alas it doesn't seem to work. I might need to dig out the old mac just for the sake of using doggiebox. I'm assuming there aren't any planned updates, so I'm curious to know what you guys are using these days instead? I have garageband, Logic Pro, and an Akai sequencer but nothing beats the interface of doggiebox's musical notation-style... On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 5:22 PM Larry Felker LAST_NAME <laf6354(a)comcast.net> wrote: I'm still using and enjoying Doggiebox. I agree, it seems to have stalled out but I've never had trouble using it with Garage Band. I just export it to my desktop and drag it into Garage Band! I'll program a whole song, drums first, put it in GB and away I go! I assume Logic would be just as easy. I've never tried creating my own kit, but may at some point. I don't think I'll ever change unless I see something as easy to use. On October 11, 2018 at 6:49 AM Carl Edlund Anderson <cea(a)carlaz.com mailto:cea@carlaz.com > wrote: I see Ben out there on Facebook, occasionally, but I think you’re right: good ol’ Doggiebox is not a particular priority these days. I think that’s been true for some time, and I’ve been looking for other solutions for a good while now, sensing that that DB’s days were numbered. DB’s ability to customize your own kits and samples, perform fairly detailed editing, and output the audio was pretty amazing, certainly when Ben first brought it out. I think it didn’t take off like it might otherwise have done because, just as it was coming out, everything was transitioning over to DAWs and everything had to be a plug-in as well as (if at all) a standalone app. It will probably be a good while before I go over to Mojave (since I don’t need to break all my audio stuff just yet!), but I suppose when I do that will be farewell to good old Doggiebox! <sniff!> Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson https://soundcloud.com/carledlundanderson/ < https://soundcloud.com/carledlundanderson/> https://carledlundanderson.bandcamp.com/ < https://carledlundanderson.bandcamp.com/> http://www.carlaz.com/music.html <http://www.carlaz.com/music.html> > > On 01 Oct 2018, at 07:15, Carl Freire < cpflists(a)carlfreire.com mailto:cpflists@carlfreire.com > wrote: Hi, anyone who might still be out there-- I believe I posed a similar question about a year ago, but is anyone in touch with Ben? I think some of us were already hitting the end of the road with Doggiebox (I still got it to work on High Sierra, though YMMV), but I vaguely recall that with Mojave if a certain "x" change wasn't done then various programs were going to fall by the wayside--Doggiebox among them. We come not to mourn Doggiebox but rather to praise it . . . Well, unless something is in the works, damn good run while it lasted and I hope that Ben is doing well, live long and prosper, etc. (Honestly, mostly at this point I'm just wondering if I should finally unsubscribe from this list . . .). Cheers, Carl (not that Carl but the other one ;-) ) --------------------------------------------- Zygoat Doggiebox discussion list - <http://www.doggiebox.com> To unsubscribe, view archives or change your options: <http://lists.zygoat.ca/mailman/listinfo/doggiebox> > --------------------------------------------- Zygoat Doggiebox discussion list - <http://www.doggiebox.com> To unsubscribe, view archives or change your options: <http://lists.zygoat.ca/mailman/listinfo/doggiebox> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Zygoat Doggiebox discussion list - <http://www.doggiebox.com> To unsubscribe, view archives or change your options: <http://lists.zygoat.ca/mailman/listinfo/doggiebox> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Zygoat Doggiebox discussion list - <http://www.doggiebox.com> To unsubscribe, view archives or change your options: <http://lists.zygoat.ca/mailman/listinfo/doggiebox>

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Status?
by Carl Freire 27 Sep '19

27 Sep '19

Hi, anyone who might still be out there-- I believe I posed a similar question about a year ago, but is anyone in touch with Ben? I think some of us were already hitting the end of the road with Doggiebox (I still got it to work on High Sierra, though YMMV), but I vaguely recall that with Mojave if a certain "x" change wasn't done then various programs were going to fall by the wayside--Doggiebox among them. We come not to mourn Doggiebox but rather to praise it . . . Well, unless something is in the works, damn good run while it lasted and I hope that Ben is doing well, live long and prosper, etc. (Honestly, mostly at this point I'm just wondering if I should finally unsubscribe from this list . . .). Cheers, Carl (not that Carl but the other one ;-) )

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Re: [Doggiebox] Status?
by marcel Renard 01 Oct '18

01 Oct '18

hello, I liked Doggiebox when I found it on the internet many years ago but I have to say I stopped using it , I use toontrack superior drummer 2 now! but still it's a nice little program! kind regards, Marcel (from holland, the netherlands) -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 10/1/18, Ednor Therriault <ednor(a)ednor.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [Doggiebox] Status? To: "Duff icator" <dufficator(a)gmail.com> Cc: "Doggiebox List" <doggiebox(a)lists.zygoat.ca> Date: Monday, October 1, 2018, 5:01 PM Hey, I’m with you guys all the way. I’m using DB to create demos that sometimes sound better than the recorded final! The ability to export as discrete drum tracks was such a game changer I never considered using anything else after that. How many software programs have brought this much pleasure and productivity? I also owe a great debt of gratitude to Ben. Cheers, fellas. ~Bob Wire, Missoula, Montana > On Oct 1, 2018, at 8:00 AM, Duff icator <dufficator(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I’m with you Carl. I fucking love DB. it’s like Microsoft word for written drum music. I’ve built my own kits with real samples from everywhere and everything. I use DB over actually recording drums. I can write music at my desk and it’ll sound better than my mics. I can get it better than anything else I’ve tried. And $40? Damn Ben. We owe you so much. How the f was everybody not using this? > > Love, Jack Duffy > https://m.facebook.com/Magnetic-Clay-Animals-856168724439335/?ref=page_inte… > > Sent from the phone. > >> On Oct 1, 2018, at 8:15 AM, Carl Freire <cpflists(a)carlfreire.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, anyone who might still be out there-- >> >> I believe I posed a similar question about a year ago, but is anyone in touch with Ben? I think some of us were already hitting the end of the road with Doggiebox (I still got it to work on High Sierra, though YMMV), but I vaguely recall that with Mojave if a certain "x" change wasn't done then various programs were going to fall by the wayside--Doggiebox among them. >> >> We come not to mourn Doggiebox but rather to praise it . . . >> >> Well, unless something is in the works, damn good run while it lasted and I hope that Ben is doing well, live long and prosper, etc. (Honestly, mostly at this point I'm just wondering if I should finally unsubscribe from this list . . .). >> >> Cheers, >> Carl (not that Carl but the other one ;-) ) >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Zygoat Doggiebox discussion list - <http://www.doggiebox.com> >> To unsubscribe, view archives or change your options: >> <http://lists.zygoat.ca/mailman/listinfo/doggiebox> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Zygoat Doggiebox discussion list - <http://www.doggiebox.com> > To unsubscribe, view archives or change your options: > <http://lists.zygoat.ca/mailman/listinfo/doggiebox> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Zygoat Doggiebox discussion list - <http://www.doggiebox.com> To unsubscribe, view archives or change your options: <http://lists.zygoat.ca/mailman/listinfo/doggiebox>

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Doggiebox and macOS Sierra?
by Carl Edlund Anderson 14 Mar '17

14 Mar '17

Does anyone out there know if Doggiebox still works on macOS Sierra? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson https://soundcloud.com/carledlundanderson/ <https://soundcloud.com/carledlundanderson/> https://soundcloud.com/espada-negra/ <https://soundcloud.com/espada-negra/> http://www.carlaz.com/music.html <http://www.carlaz.com/music.html>

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dbkits on offer for ns_kit7 (NDK) samples
by Carl Edlund Anderson 21 Jul '15

21 Jul '15

Anyone out there use the old ns_kit7 samples? These were rebranded as “Natural Drum Kit” (“NDK”) a while back, too, but it’s not clear to me whether they are still available for purchase (though possibly they are still kicking around in torrent-space!). Anyway, I’ve working on a few recordings using Doggiebox drums of late, and was upgrading my dbkits that use ns_kit7 samples. I don’t embed the samples in the dbkits, because they would be too huge, but if anyone out there has the samples, I’d be happy to pass along my dbkits. They include 16 levels of velocity for most of the major drum hit sounds one would want for rock/pop/blues/metal (though fewer levels of velocity for [what I consider] less commonly used drum hit sounds). As long as you samples, you could just point my dbkits at the appropriate directory on your drives when they asked “Hey! Where’s this sample?”, and it should all load up fine. (Without the samples, though, my dbkits would be pretty useless!) Let me know, I’ll send the dbkits (or Dropbox links) along. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson https://soundcloud.com/carledlundanderson/ https://soundcloud.com/espada-negra/ http://www.carlaz.com/music.html

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Yosemite?
by Carl Edlund Anderson 03 Jul '15

03 Jul '15

Anyone know if Doggiebox still plays nicely in Yosemite? I'm not _too_ worried about anything else I rely on falling apart too badly, but I'll be bummed if Doggiebox stops working! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson https://soundcloud.com/carledlundanderson/ https://soundcloud.com/espada-negra/ http://www.carlaz.com/music.html

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